DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

ABC has video from the police station when they brought in Zimmerman. No broken nose, no scratches, no laceration on the back of his head.

FuzzNJ wrote:



More race baiting from the CBid Sharpton Douchebag!


Also brought to light today...he helps mentor minority kids on the weekends!

wheelrite
14 years ago

More race baiting from the CBid Sharpton Douchebag!


Also brought to light today...he helps mentor minority kids on the weekends!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



Fuzz is cranky cuz Obama care is illegal...
HockeyDad
14 years ago

by the way HD since your cone of protecton is now outdated I'll sell you a gross of hoodies for cost

teedubbya wrote:




I learned my lesson with torches and pitchforks. Good luck unloading those hoodies.
rfenst
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14 years ago

i have tried to read most of the posts here, skipping the junk of course. it is sad the media is distorting so many facts and furthermore putting up incorrect information.



Rfenst, as you have more knowledge and experience, given the current known evidence/testimony, what is your legal opinion? i understand the situation as follows, feel free to correct:

Neighborhood has had 8 robberies in the past 15 months (reported by neighbor)
T was staying with his dad's fiancee in the same neighborhood as Z
T went to the gas station for a snack (talking to GF on phone)
Z was on his way to the store when he say T walking
Z called 911, tried to follow T against operators orders (T's girlfriend said she told him to run) by her account, he put his hoodie on to cover his face and ran.
Z lost T and walked back to his truck
T confronted Z, fight ensued
Z suffered broken nose from punches from T and a gash on the back of his head from having his head smashed on the sidewalk
Z says he was calling for help, at some point he pulled his firearm and shot T
Witnesses claim they immediately run out
Officers arrive, hold Z at gunpoint, police report states that Z complied with all verbal commands and was disarmed, handcuffed and put in cruiser. he was treated for injuries and transported to the police station for questioning. detectives interviewed him and released him

Papachristou wrote:



The only alleged fact above I would directly dispute, after hearing the 911 tape on TV, is that Zimmerman was NOT ordered to stop following Trayvon, but was instead told something vague to the effect of: "Sir, we don't need you to do that".

Many of the facts you listed, although at least possibly true, have not been proven to my satisfaction yet. So, I don't have a legal opinion yet- other than to agree with HockeyDad that if the alleged facts he culled out above are the only material, true facts, Zimmerman walks away free under Florida law and should even get his gun back.

If Zimmerman was in fact surprise-attacked from behind; the screaming for help on tape turns out to truly have been Zimmerman; and there are medical records documenting Zimmerman suffered nasal/facial injury and head injury, I probably would not have a problem with Zimmerman walking even if Florida didn't have a stand your ground law.

having indicated the above, it is too early for me to truly be able to formally and finally opine...
wheelrite
14 years ago
Yawn,,,

This story has run it's course...


Next please...
rfenst
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14 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM





No, I don't. I stand by my earlier assessment of them both. They're floating turds that won't go down the sewer no matter how many times you flush them. Perhaps you could find a case where either of them were actually ACCURATE and if that countered the score for those of us keeping track at home with the "play along" version.

Even though the Martin family doesn't want them around...they're still there with their agenda helping the black man.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



The family doesn't want the NBPP around. They sure seem to me to have embraced Sharpton and Jackson.

Given a choice between Sharpton and Jackson preaching and rallying people to protest peacefully and the angry NBPP guy- I choose Sharpton and Jackson every time. What the NBPP guy is calling for is anarchy, lynch-mob and presumed violence, which helps no one at all (except NBPP0.
wheelrite
14 years ago

The family doesn't want the NBPP around. They sure seem to me to have embraced Sharpton and Jackson.

Given a choice between Sharpton and Jackson preaching and rallying people to protest peacefully and the angry NBPP guy- I choose Sharpton and Jackson every time. What the NBPP guy is calling for is anarchy, lynch-mob and presumed violence, which helps no one at all (except NBPP0.

rfenst wrote:



huh ?
rfenst
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14 years ago

huh ?

wheelrite wrote:




Check out MadVibe's link in post number 202. That will bring you up to speed on what he and I are discussing. I promise you it is worth watching...
wheelrite
14 years ago
Florida is a chithole..
itsawaldo
14 years ago
Man-0-Man that BP video with Cooper was a hoot!

Too funny hearing Anderson Cooper tear this Black Panther apart and he just stands there and blusters on, blaming whitey.

The way some of these racist's (from both sides) talk, I'd say if you don't have a gun or two you better get some!
05busa
14 years ago
Dont have to worry now guys.......................Oprah and Obama got it under control.
ZRX1200
14 years ago
I just submitted a patent for Kevlar hoodies.
05busa
14 years ago
Ummm......i have one already. U may be a lil late holmes
ZRX1200
14 years ago
Yours says "Keel Whitey"?
05busa
14 years ago
i taped over it and wrote martin
Rclay
14 years ago
A few months ago I would have waded hip deep into this, but I have so much crap going on right now I just "drive-by" post these days. Someday I will be able to give more focus to these things again.
jetblasted
14 years ago

With the help of my blue decoder ring:

bloody spaniard wrote:


Witty
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

The family doesn't want the NBPP around. They sure seem to me to have embraced Sharpton and Jackson.

Given a choice between Sharpton and Jackson preaching and rallying people to protest peacefully and the angry NBPP guy- I choose Sharpton and Jackson every time. What the NBPP guy is calling for is anarchy, lynch-mob and presumed violence, which helps no one at all (except NBPP0.

rfenst wrote:




Preaching? Better listen up.

Listen to the sensationalism. Listen to the hype. Once again, before ALL of the facts are in he's already telling the masses and the camera that he's "Gonna Win This!". Nope. He's gonna muddy the waters even more and stir up more violence and hatred!





Watch ALL of these videos...start at the first one if you must and go all the way through.

Remember...the day he was ranting on these YouTubes...his own mother passed away. Talk about twisted priorities! I suppose there were no camera crews at HER funeral home!!!


A tragedy that is playing out in the media instead of waiting for the facts.

WHAT DO THEY WANT? STREET LAW!

DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Check out MadVibe's link in post number 202. That will bring you up to speed on what he and I are discussing. I promise you it is worth watching...

rfenst wrote:



You ever watch the Meet The Press videos I posted?

Utter disgrace!
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Man-0-Man that BP video with Cooper was a hoot!

Too funny hearing Anderson Cooper tear this Black Panther apart and he just stands there and blusters on, blaming whitey.

The way some of these racist's (from both sides) talk, I'd say if you don't have a gun or two you better get some!

itsawaldo wrote:






He doesn't want a beer!

I was told this wasn't a White/Black matter and that as a White person my opinion doesn't matter. Contrary to what the Constitution and the Bill of Rights has to say about it. See, the New Black Panthers don't abide by the US law or legal system though. See them for what they are. If he was passionate about really ending the violence he would get to the root of it. He hasn't addressed the fact that Black on Black murder rate DWARFS whatever his hateful message says.

http://www.jpattitude.com/120329.php 

"The media also misled with words, or course. It’s doubtful there would even be a controversy if the media hadn’t created one. The media invented facts until America believed that Trayvon was an innocent little kid simply walking back to his father’s house with a bag of Skittles, minding his own business, when a racist white guy named George Zimmerman started following him... then Zimmerman called 911 and wouldn’t stop following Trayvon even when the 911 dispatcher told him to, and instigated a confrontation so he could use his gun, whereupon he shot and killed Trayvon... then the police didn’t detain him, let alone arrest him... they just let him take his gun and go home.

None of that is true. None of it.

According to the police report, backed up at crucial points by an eyewitness who also called 911, Zimmerman, who is not white but rather a Hispanic man from a multi-racial family who tutors black youngsters along with his wife, did back off when the 911 dispatcher told him to, but Trayvon, who was suspended from school for the third time – this time for ten days because he was caught with drug paraphernalia and an empty baggie containing marijuana residue – came after Zimmerman, confronted him, and then attacked him, breaking Zimmerman’s nose and knocking him to the ground with an initial blow, whereupon Trayvon jumped on him and started slamming his head into the ground. Then Trayvon went for Zimmerman’s gun, according to Zimmerman, and the end result was a shooting death. Afterward the police detained and questioned Zimmerman for five straight hours, then brought him back the next day and questioned him for hours again. His story never wavered in the face of professional interrogators, and his story meshed with the story from the eyewitness, so the police didn’t arrest him."


That guys post sums it all up so damn succinctly! It should be a must read. Rather long for our ADHD BOTL's here.

On a side note observation...do the same people that work the Avis counter in major airports take the same facial expressions class that the rest of the New Black Panthers take...the er, "Major" (at least that's a US military Major's insignia!) excluded.
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