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DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

House rejects Bowles-Simpson, Obama budgets

The Bowles-Simpson deficit-reduction plan went down to a crushing defeat in the House late Wednesday night in a vote that damages the one bipartisan proposal that just a few months ago had seemed like a possible solution to the country’s debt woes.

The 382-38 defeat, with just 16 Republicans and 22 Democrats voting for it, marks a bad end to what began nearly two years ago, when President Obama tapped former White House Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles, a Democrat, and former Sen. Alan Simpson, a Republican, to lead a deficit-reduction committee.

Their report has popped up in every deficit discussion since then, but had never gotten a vote in either chamber until this week, when opponents prevailed.

“This doesn’t go big. This doesn’t tackle the problem. This doesn’t do the big things,” said Rep. Paul D. Ryan, Wisconsin Republican and chairman of the Budget Committee. “You can never get the debt under control if you don’t deal with our health care entitlement programs.”

The debate came as the House worked its way through its fiscal year 2013 budget plan, which Mr. Ryan wrote.
The Bowles-Simpson plan was offered as an alternative on the chamber floor.

Minutes earlier, the House also defeated Mr. Obama’s own budget, submitted last month, on a 414-0 vote arranged by Republicans to embarrass the president and officially shelve his plan.

“It’s not a charade. It’s not a gimmick — unless what the president sent us is the same,” said Rep. Mick Mulvaney, a freshman Republican from South Carolina who sponsored Mr. Obama’s proposal for purposes of the debate. “I would encourage the Democrats to embrace this landmark Democrat document and support it. Personally, I will be voting against it.”

The House also defeated an alternative offered by the Congressional Black Caucus that would have included $4 trillion in additional tax increases on top of those Mr. Obama proposed, and used that money to boost spending on domestic programs. That plan was killed 314-107.

But the Bowles-Simpson plan was the most anticipated vote of the evening, earning its first-ever vote in either chamber.

“There’s a consensus in america we have to reduce our deficit,” said Rep. Rob Andrews, New Jersey Democrat.

“Most of it should be by cutting spending, and some of it should be in revenue contribution by the wealthiest Americans.”

The plan was sponsored by Rep. Jim Cooper, Tennessee Democrat, and Rep. Steve LaTourette, Ohio Republican, and was backed by Mr. Bowles and Mr. Simpson, who said it faithfully represented their goals.

But it was attacked by those on both ends of the political spectrum, leaving the two chief sponsors to defend themselves. Mr. LaTourette listed a series of attacks he said were untrue, adding after each: “False. Your pants are on fire.”

Rep. Charlie Bass, New Hampshire Republican, said he also supports House Republicans’ budget but said that plan doesn’t have a chance in the Senate, and without a final agreement on a congressional budget it will make it impossible to agree to spending limits and extending the Bush-era tax cuts.

“Compromise is not a capitulation of principle,” Mr. Bass said.

http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/28/bowles-simpson-goes-down-defeat/

Owedumba "The Great Unifier"...when was the last time there was a 414-0 vote? Against a President's budget?

[frypan]

I personally liked the part where the Republican's used their Cheney Jedi mind control over the spineless jellyfish Democrats and made them their bitches for the day and did their bidding! I heard they were even serving porterhouse steaks in the dining hall with a nice Cab...because they wanted it! These are not the wars you want to end...this is not the debt you're looking for...waves the hand...

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bloody spaniard
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14 years ago

Obama has been an abject failure in his first 3 years- there's no denying that.
The question is what can the soon to be Republican majority in both Houses going to do after Obama is re-elected?

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

The question is what can the soon to be Republican majority in both Houses going to do after Obama is re-elected?

bloody spaniard wrote:

I suspect they'll reach across the aisle and work together to push the globalist agenda!

bloody spaniard
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14 years ago

I suspect they'll reach across the aisle and work together to push the globalist agenda!

HockeyDad wrote:

We can always hope that Obama can be dragged closer to the center (much as Slick Willy was) & the progress towards "globalization" can be slowed.

borndead1
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14 years ago

“Most of it should be by cutting spending, and some of it should be in revenue contribution by the wealthiest Americans.”

That is the lousiest spin I've ever seen.

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

And maybe Mittens rhino horn has aphrodesial properties!

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

And maybe Mittens rhino horn has aphrodesial properties!

ZRX1200 wrote:

If that doesn't then perhaps we can grind a rib off of each of his 13 wives!

Glass half full!

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

BLOOD

I DENY THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS BEEN A FAILURE.

THE REPUBLICANS ENTIRE CAUSE CELEBE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WAS TO GET
THE DARK BROTHER OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND BACK IN THE FIELDS
"WHERE HE BELONGS."

THE NEEDS OF THE COUNTRY BE DAMNED.

IT'S ALL BASED ON COLOR OF SKIN.

IT HELPS THAT FOR THE MOST PART, REPUBLICANS ARE STUPID AND SELF SERVING.

THE FACT THAT ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE HAVE NO DIFFERENCES OF
OPINION, NOTHING DIFFERENT THEN ANY ONE ELSE. NOTHING NEW AND ORIGNAL. THEY ARE LIKE
A HERD OF COW. ONE RUNS HIS WAY AND ALL THE OTHER COWS FOLLOW.

A GUY IN THE CROWD YELLS "HANG HIM" AND EVERY ONE ELSE YELLS "HANG HIM."

A GUY ASKS "HANG WHO?" AND THE GUY NEXT TO HIM SAYS, "WHO KNOWS, WHO CARES, JUST HANG HIM."

engletl
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14 years ago

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

and the Democrats are different how?

Oh yeah, they are sheep not cows

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#10

Sometimes hooks and #2's are undecipherable.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#11

THE REPUBLICANS ENTIRE CAUSE CELEBE FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS WAS TO GET
THE DARK BROTHER OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE AND BACK IN THE FIELDS
"WHERE HE BELONGS."

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

That is ridiculous. Agriculture is big business now and heavily automated.

drywalldog
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14 years ago

#12

Guess this a major win for the right. Enjoy it while you can.

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#13

They will savor your every tear!

ZRX1200
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14 years ago

#14

Its a shame when you can't further radicalize the country into socialism. I hate missed opportunities.

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#15

HockeyDad

DOERSN'T SOMONE HAVE TO OIL THE MACHINES?

RICKAMAVEN
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14 years ago

#16

GREAT SHOW ON A&E

"CRIMINAL MINDS"

MAGIC AND A GROUP OF INVESTORS JUST BOUGHT THE DODGERS FOR TWO BILLION. RUMOUR IS THEY ARE MOVING BACK TO BROOKLYN

I THINK MY SPELL CHECK ISN'T WORKING

HockeyDad
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14 years ago

#17

HockeyDad

DOERSN'T SOMONE HAVE TO OIL THE MACHINES?

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

I'm gonna' need some pliers, and a set of 30 weight ball bearings, it's all ball bearing nowadays. ...And I'm gonna' need about 10 quarts of antifreeze, preferably Prestone. No, make that Quaker State

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#18

HockeyDad wrote:

Harry? Is that you?

DrMaddVibe
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14 years ago

#19

GREAT SHOW ON A&E

"CRIMINAL MINDS"

MAGIC AND A GROUP OF INVESTORS JUST BOUGHT THE DODGERS FOR TWO BILLION. RUMOUR IS THEY ARE MOVING BACK TO BROOKLYN

I THINK MY SPELL CHECK ISN'T WORKING

RICKAMAVEN wrote:

That old black magic has me in its spell...those investors...Mittens involved in that??

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