FuzzNJ
14 years ago

That doesn't match the story.

HockeyDad wrote:



Which part and whose story?
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

Which part and whose story?

FuzzNJ wrote:





Police surveillance video of Zimmerman may show head injury


Surveillance video of George Zimmerman arriving at a Sanford, Fla. police station indicates what may be an injury to the back of his head, a Daily Caller analysis shows.

ABC News published the video Wednesday evening. Zimmerman is the man who shot and killed 17-year-old black teen Trayvon Martin a month ago. (RELATED: Full coverage of the Martin shooting)

“A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman,” ABC News reporter Matt Gutman wrote, noting that Zimmerman told police “he shot Martin after he was punched in the nose, knocked down and had his head slammed into the ground.”

ABC News reported that Zimmerman appears uninjured in the video. But a still image from the video indicates what appears to be a vertical laceration or scar several inches long.

ABC did note that at the 49-second mark in the video, one of the police officers accompanying Zimmerman stops to look at the back of Zimmerman’s head for several seconds. Zimmerman, as ABC News noted, did not visit the emergency room after police interviewed him.

The Orlando Sentinel’s Rene Stutzman reported on March 26 about portions of what Zimmerman told police during that interview.

“With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk, leaving him bloody and battered,” Stutzman reported, relating the account Zimmerman reportedly gave police that night.


Zimmerman’s lawyer, Craig Sonner, is reported to have said his client felt, at that point, like “one of them was going to die that night,” so he pulled the trigger, shooting and killing Martin.

At the scene of the incident, according to a three-page preliminary police report, Zimmerman was given “first aid” by Sanford Fire Department paramedics. It is unclear what that treatment consisted of, and how much time elapsed between the paramedics’ intervention and Zimmerman’s arrival at the Sanford Police Department.

Martin’s family’s attorney, Benjamin Crump, appeared on television almost immediately after ABC News released the video, telling CNN’s Piers Morgan that the footage is a “smoking gun.” Crump added that it shows the Sanford Police Department’s version of events is a “fabrication” and that “it’s obvious to us that there was something that night they conspired to cover up.”

Watch the police surveillance video:




http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/29/police-surveillance-video-of-zimmerman-may-show-head-injury/ 




Look at the cop staring at the back of his head...ABCNews put their marquee in a very strategic place.

When it's removed...VIOLA...the Truth is revealed.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago
Trayvon Martin case exposes worst in media

The Trayvon Martin case has exposed some of the media's worst tendencies--selective editing, rushing to judgment, stoking anger for ratings and page views--and it's taken more than fake photos, the incendiary stumbles of Geraldo Rivera and Spike Lee and verbal clashes between Piers Morgan and Toure to shine a light on them.

Here are three recent, troubling examples:

1. After ABC News aired surveillance video of George Zimmerman, Martin's shooter, entering a police precinct without any apparent injuries, the Daily Caller treated the tape like a Zapruder film, enhancing still images from the video and concluding that it found "what may be an injury to the back of his head." The site's photo "analysis" of the back of Zimmerman's head--replete with yellow Photoshopped arrows--"indicates what appears to be a vertical laceration or scar several inches long."

Keep in mind, this is the same Daily Caller that published 152 pages of what the conservative site claims were Martin's tweets--which, if they were, prove that Martin was a pretty typical high school male, preoccupied with girls, sex and getting out of class early.

2. NBC told the Washington Post that it has launched an internal investigation of the "Today" show's editorial process after its morning show aired an edited conversation between George Zimmerman and a 911 dispatcher recorded moments before the shooting. The investigation came after Fox News and others pointed out that the network spliced two parts of the call together, making it appear as if Zimmerman had said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." In reality, Zimmerman was answering a dispatcher's question:

Zimmerman: This guy looks like he's up to no good. Or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher: OK, and this guy--is he black, white or Hispanic?

Zimmerman: He looks black.

3. In an flailing effort to break news in a month-old shooting, CBS News aired an interview with Richard Kurtz, the funeral director who handled Trayvon Martin's burial.

"There were no physical signs like there had been a scuffle," Kurtz declared, which the network said proves Zimmerman's claims of a violent encounter with Martin before the shooting are false. "The hands--I didn't see any knuckles, bruises or what have you, and that is something we would have covered up if it would have been there. He looked perfectly normal to me when he came in and the story just does not make sense that he was in this type of scuffle or fight in anything that we could see."

Except, he said, the gunshot wound.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/trayvon-martin-case-exposes-worst-media-210020839.html 




All this really sums up for me is that even a stopped clock is right twice a day. This case will be decided on the facts and not the STREET LAW people want.
skinnykenny
14 years ago
🇨🇮 🇨🇮 🇨🇮 I say let ZIMMERMAN go, the police did their due diligence, found no law was broken, there for he should be a free man. No one was there, and if they were maybe they should have told the cops. For this "race issue" it's not an issue. A guy defended himself from an attacker, and he has to live with the consequences. Next, story please!!! 🇨🇮 🇨🇮 🇨🇮
Papachristou
14 years ago
DrMaddVibe,

thats the first time ive seen that trinket. unbelievable how the media twists words and even recordings to rile up the public.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

DrMaddVibe,

thats the first time ive seen that trinket. unbelievable how the media twists words and even recordings to rile up the public.

Papachristou wrote:




Like I've said...let the facts come through!!!
rfenst
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14 years ago

Just saw the video on the local news.
Zimmerman was in handcuffs and there was no visible blood or injury.

MikeyRavioli wrote:



I will rely upon medical records, not any video, unless it patently shows injury. Rule-out nasal fx by video is not usually a standard way such a DX is made.
DrMaddVibe
14 years ago

I will rely upon medical records, not any video, unless it patently shows injury. Rule-out nasal fx by video is not usually a standard way such a DX is made.

rfenst wrote:




What are you talking about?

Medical records? The kid has a hole in him and is dead. The other guy has a bashed in head.

YOU believed in two shucking jiving race baiting carpetbaggers! They're now calling for sanctions against Sanford! Like they did anything? Oh, wait...that's right...it's a hotbed for the KKK or so the NAACP President Ben Jealous said on NATIONAL TV!

Now these lowlifes are trying their damnedest to make this some Selma back in the 60's moment...good luck with THAT!
rfenst
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14 years ago

You want to get back on topic......this issue should never have left the town of Sanford!!!!!
This is in " No Way " national news PERIOD

TMCTLT wrote:



Sorry, but I disagree. Stand your ground law is good enough issue to bring the matter forward as an example of a current event. We no longer live in a world of the pony express or just printed news. Everything in the public domain is subject to re-publication elsewhere. Saying "the issue should have never left the town of Sanford" is like someone putting hands over their eyes and ears and calling out that they can't see or hear what is going on in current events- and this is a MAJOR event- without Sharpton and Jackson.
rfenst
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14 years ago

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Friday that the “stand your ground” self-defense law he signed while in office should not apply to the case of a teenager who was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer in his home state.

“This law does not apply to this particular circumstance,” Bush said after an education panel discussion at the University of Texas at Arlington. “Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn’t mean chase after somebody who’s turned their back.”

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/arlington/headlines/20120323-in-arlington-jeb-bush-says-stand-your-ground-invalid-in-trayvon-martin-case.ece 

FuzzNJ wrote:



Not disagreeing with you, but why put stock in what Jeb says on this. He never went to law school and has never been a judge.

The best source of the intent of the law is the legislative committee notes, which can easily be obtained to determine the legislature's intent .
HockeyDad
14 years ago
There has been a shooting in California. This topic will now struggle to make front page news.

In other news, Natalee Holloway is still missing.
rfenst
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14 years ago

That doesn't match the story.

HockeyDad wrote:



Who cares. I think one can start a fight and make a good faith claim self defense for a defensive killing under certain circumstances. Once an altercation begins and the atackee response in kind, the issue is still whether the use of deadly force was reasonable.

"Reasonable" is measured by the legal fictional standard of "the reasonably prudent person". So, it is not whether Zimmerman's fear for himself was reasonable in Zimmerman's mind here as i have no doubt it was- or he wouldn't have shot.
rfenst
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14 years ago
[quote=DrMaddVibe]What are you talking about?

Medical records?



Zimmerman's medical records. Re-read for context. I will not rule out the claim of injury to Zimmerman by a mere video camera. I will not rule out nasal fx for anyone w/o an x-ray- and then the x-ray and radiology report may be inadequate and wrong, respectively.

Are we clear?

LOL!

wheelrite
14 years ago

There has been a shooting in California. This topic will now struggle to make front page news.

In other news, Natalee Holloway is still missing.

HockeyDad wrote:



nice try,,,

Florida is a cesspool full of criminals....
8trackdisco
14 years ago
"..He said as much in his phone call with his friend, there's a strange white man following me or something to that effect..."

Trayvon was obviously a racist, blinded by hate, accusing the Hispanic gentleman as being White.

Btw, don't mess with me. I bought Skittles AND an Iced Tea. Not a tthe same time, but buying them on the same day (in different stores a couple hours apart) shows I'm harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!
wheelrite
14 years ago

"..He said as much in his phone call with his friend, there's a strange white man following me or something to that effect..."

Trayvon was obviously a racist, blinded by hate, accusing the Hispanic gentleman as being White.

Btw, don't mess with me. I bought Skittles AND an Iced Tea. Not a tthe same time, but buying them on the same day (in different stores a couple hours apart) shows I'm harrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd!

8trackdisco wrote:



Trayvon wore a hoodie you wear Hush Puppies,not the same...
8trackdisco
14 years ago

Trayvon wore a hoodie you wear Hush Puppies,not the same...

wheelrite wrote:



I've got a black hoodie. Says Jagermeister on it. The shoes are... Nunn & Bush with orthopedic insoles, like all the gangstas wear.
wheelrite
14 years ago
Goerge Martin produced all the Beatle albums and now he offed a black boy ?
8trackdisco
14 years ago

Goerge Martin produced all the Beatle albums and now he offed a black boy ?

wheelrite wrote:



Was he eating hush puppies?
wheelrite
14 years ago

Was he eating hush puppies?

8trackdisco wrote:



That's the missing CSI tidbit...

It ALL makes sense now !#-o
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