I wasn't implying they were complicit.

Curious why they didn't think donations might be made for his defense.


And Z & wife are really dumb with this.....

It is weird. Up to this point Zimmerman has been known for his clear, rational decision making and solid nerves of steel. All that stress put on him by the black mafia must have made him lie.

As suggested above, I am not sure I understand your question. Now, I think you maybe are asking why the Zs didn't restrict the money for Z's legal fees and disclose it immediately. If that is the question, then I can't say why they would use it for anything else- other than to take care of their business and resolve their pressure and uncertainty by paying off their bills, buying bullet proof vests and taking other measures to be prepared for the long-haul. Other than the perjury charge, the released jail tapes of conversations I have heard sound like there was some very rational planning going on by the Zs.

Now, if your question is why didn't anyone, including the prosecutor and Omara, ask whether there were donations made for Z's legal defense, I simply don't know. I know that there are reports that some television talk-show or "news" person asked that donations be sent to aid Z's defense. I also know that Z set-up a website. If anyone knew of all these things, you would wonder why questions weren't asked ahead of time. Maybe Z or Zs asked by Omara and a lie or lies were told. People lie and fib to their lawyers all the time. I don't know. perhaps, if I knew the timeline of the television personality's request for donations, the timeline of Z's website and the contents of Z's website, then I could try to give you a better answer.

Hope one of these is on point. If not, perhaps you could re-state your original question. Sorry if I am dense on this one...

The "black mafia" as you refer to them are what made the difference in this case. But for Sharpton and the others (except for the New Black Panthers), I do not think Z would ever have been charged. And, for what it is worth, and based on everything I have read, seen and heard, I think Z should have been charged so that as you previously put it here or elsewhere- the legal system could sort everything out.

And just like EVERY single damn case those 2 have EVER stuck their noses in....they will be found to be on the WRONG SIDE!


WTF UP!


You're listening to fools and racebaiters expecting some good to come out of their mouths!

Taxpayers will pick up the tab for a losing case! Z is gonna walk.

Have a friend that used to be the prosecutor in the county north of me. A couple pot heads brothers shot (alledgedly) a forest service ranger that cam out to their growing zone. After reviewing the case and the evidence, he refused to file charges. Needless to say, there was a huge public outcry. Next election cycle he was not re-elected. The guy that got elected ran on a campain that he would convict.

First trial resulted in hung jury. Same with the second. I think the new guy gave up after 2 attempts. As I recall, the total bill for both trials came to about 5% of the county's annual budget.

Robert your second scenario was more what I was talking about.

I haven't kept up with this much but I assumed he would have a legal defense fund.......obviously not a defense teams biggest concern just seemed odd they didn't see that. And again stupid of Z not to disclose to them.

No, I am paying attention to the evidence that gets publicized, without a preconceived or premature determination.
Paying for a loss is the cost of constitutional justice. That's an expense I am happy to pay. Both the state and Z have rights and responsibilities- they don't come free.

(If you are so absolutely certain Z is innocent without all of the evidence having been released, let alone analyzed- blame the Governor)

Zimmerman's bail set at $1M in Trayvon Martin case

Published - Jul 05 2012 11:56AM EST

MIKE SCHNEIDER, Associated Press


ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — A Florida judge ruled Thursday that George Zimmerman can be released from jail a second time on $1 million bond, saying he set the bail amount significantly higher because Zimmerman may have been hiding money as part of a plot to flee the country.

Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester had revoked Zimmerman's $150,000 bond last month after prosecutors told the judge Zimmerman and his wife misled the court about how much money they had during an April bond hearing. Zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

"It is entirely reasonable for this court to find that, but for the requirement that he be placed on electronic monitoring, the defendant and his wife would have fled the United States with at least $130,000 of other people's money," Lester wrote.

Prosecutors said a website Zimmerman created for his legal defense had raised $135,000 at the time of his first bond hearing. Zimmerman and his wife did not mention the money then, and Shellie Zimmerman even said the couple had limited resources because she was a student and he wasn't working.

The judge made his decision after listening last week to Zimmerman's attorney and a forensic financial analyst explain why he wasn't more forthcoming.

The judge expressed his unhappiness with Zimmerman and said that his actions suggest a possibility that he was preparing to flee to avoid prosecution.

"Under any definition, the defendant has flaunted the system," Lester wrote in the order. "The defendant has tried to manipulate the system when he has been presented the opportunity to do so."

Lester said he was granting bond because Zimmerman posed no threat to the community, and Florida law requires that most defendants receive bond if they pose no threat and can assure their presence for trial. The judge's order requires Zimmerman to be electronically monitored and residing in Seminole County, prohibits him from opening a bank account or obtaining a passport and implements a 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. Zimmerman had been allowed to leave Florida under the conditions of his first bond release.

Prosecutors previously argued Zimmerman and his wife talked in code during recorded jailhouse conversations about how to transfer the donations to different bank accounts. For example, George Zimmerman at one point asked how much money they had. She replied "$155." Prosecutors allege that was code for $155,000. Their reference to "Peter Pan" was code for the PayPal system through which the donations were made, prosecutors said.

Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara sparred with prosecutors over those finances last week and questioned why his client is in jail at all, arguing that Martin's actions led to his death. O'Mara did not immediately return a phone message Thursday.

O'Mara ultimately decided against calling his client to the stand during last Friday's hearing, unlike during the first bond hearing, when Zimmerman apologized to Martin's family.

The defense attorney called Zimmerman's father to testify, and played a chilling 911 call from the Feb. 26 night when Martin was killed. The call includes a disputed cry for help and the fatal gunshot. Robert Zimmerman said he was sure that was his son's cry.

Shellie Zimmerman has since been charged with perjury. She is out of jail on $1,000 bond and her arraignment is set for July 31.

Zimmerman has been charged with second-degree murder for fatally shooting the unarmed 17-year-old Martin on Feb. 26 at a gated apartment community in Sanford. Zimmerman has pleaded not guilty and claims the shooting was self-defense under the state's "stand your ground" law.

Martin's parents and supporters claim that the teenager was targeted because he was black and that Zimmerman started the confrontation that led to the shooting. Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

The 44 days between the shooting and Zimmerman's arrest inspired nationwide protests, led to the departure of the Sanford police chief and prompted a U.S. Justice Department probe.

DAMN!!!


That'll buy a lot of Skittles and iced tea!

Right. He had the money available when he could travel, and showed up everytime (in court) he was asked to even when he "feared" for his safety.


Whatever.

New hoodies for all!

George Zimmerman leaves Fla. jail on $1M bond


ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — Neighborhood watch leader George Zimmerman was released from jail Friday for a second time while he awaits his second-degree murder trial for fatally shooting Trayvon Martin.

Zimmerman left the Seminole County Jail a day after Circuit Judge Kenneth Lester granted a $1 million bail with strict conditions. He wore a white shirt and dress jacket as he walked out.

The neighborhood watch leader is required to stay in Seminole County. He was allowed to leave Florida after his first release in April. He must be electronically monitored, can't open a bank account, obtain a passport or set foot on the grounds of the local airport. He has a 6 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew.

"He's very happy to be out," Don West, one of Zimmerman's attorneys, told reporters outside the jail. "Certainly it's been a sobering experience spending the last month in jail in that kind of environment."

Zimmerman had been released on a $150,000 bond in April, but the judge revoked it last month after prosecutors presented evidence that he and his wife misled the court about how much money they had available to pay for the bond. They didn't tell the judge that donations from a website for Zimmerman's legal defense had raised around $135,000 at the time of his first bond hearing.

Prosecutors argued Zimmerman and his wife talked in code during recorded jailhouse conversations about how to transfer the donations to different bank accounts. For example, George Zimmerman at one point asked how much money they had. She replied "$155." Prosecutors allege that was code for $155,000. Their reference to "Peter Pan" was code for the PayPal system through which the donations were made, prosecutors said.

Shellie Zimmerman faces arraignment at the end of the month on a perjury charge; she was freed on bond.

Zimmerman's attorneys said Thursday that there was $211,000 in an account, which included the amount raised from Zimmerman's website and also money generated from another website set up by his legal team. An additional $20,000 was raised in the day after Lester issued the $1 million bond order.

Zimmerman had to pay a bond company $100,000 but also needed $1 million in collateral to secure the bail, his legal team said.

West refused to comment on what was being used as collateral after Zimmerman left the jail.

"We worked that out," West said.

...

During Zimmerman's second bond hearing, his attorney, Mark O'Mara, said that his client was confused, fearful and experienced a moment of weakness when he and his wife misled the court.

The judge didn't buy it and expressed his unhappiness with Zimmerman and his wife in his second bond order. He accused Zimmerman of making plans to flee to avoid prosecution, misleading O'Mara by not disclosing the money from the website and trying to manipulate the judicial system.

"Under any definition, the defendant has flaunted the system," Lester wrote.

But the judge said current law limited his ability to deny a second application for bond.

-Thousands and thousands of pages of investigation, discovery, items and documents have been turned over to Z's lawyers over the past few weeks.


-This is going to get very interesting. Z's lawyers are procedurally and tactically crushing the prosecution. It doesn't hurt that the prosecution has to turn over evidence that conflicts its allegations.


-MOTION FOR RECUSAL (of Judge Lester)!

This is going to be interesting. I think no matter what happens you are going to see a lot of unhappy people. Good luck finding a jury for this one...

They need six people who they feel will decide fairly based only on evidence only.
Worked in Casey Anthony trial, IMO.

That's obviously wrong. Zimmerman is a super hero saving the world from dangerous black kids.

he only does that when he's not raping little girls.... 😟

He's saving them from the curse of virginity.