HockeyDad
13 years ago
In Arab world, Obama has fallen from grace

A new poll suggests deep disappointment with the US and Obama’s policies in the Arab world. Middle East specialist Khaled Elgindy sheds light on how a president who once inspired new hope in the region has ended up disappointing so many.

US President Barack Obama’s speech in Cairo in June 2009 was seen as a potential start of a new chapter in relations between America and the Arab world.

But a new survey carried out by international polling firm YouGov in August shows that America today is deeply unpopular in the region; the number of respondents in the Middle East and North Africa who said they don’t trust America was more than double the number of respondents who said they do. 39% of those polled said they do not trust the US at all.

The poll implies that Obama’s more conciliatory tone toward the Arab world, as well as his ending of the war in Iraq and his support of the Arab Spring, have done little to boost America’s standing in the region.

France24.com spoke with Khaled Elgindy, a prominent Middle East specialist at the Brookings Institution in Washington DC, for insight into how a US president who initially inspired hope among Arabs fell so far short of expectations.

F24: The new poll shows Obama to be very unpopular in the Arab world. What are the major sources of disappointment?

Khaled Elgindy: There was obviously a lot of hope when he came in, huge expectations that Arabs and other Muslims had of him. The disappointment reflected in the poll is partly due to the fact that he didn’t live up to expectations. But it’s also because the expectations were exaggerated to begin with – and not just in the Arab world.

In the Arab world, the expectation was that he would do more on the Palestinian issue, which is, of course, a unifying theme in the minds of Arabs. From an Arab point of view, Obama has been consistently bad on that issue, even though in some Israeli circles he has also been seen as abandoning Israel.

Arabs are disappointed because, on the ground, policy has not really changed from the Bush era. Obama has not even reached the most minimal expectations of Arabs. There is a sense that he’s shown disregard for Palestinian government and Palestinian needs, and that it’s a very paternalistic relationship that the US has with Palestinians.

That stands in stark contrast to how the US has adapted its policies in the wake of the Arab Spring. In Egypt, the US has done a fairly good job in adapting to dramatic changes. Even though the president of Egypt is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Obama administration had a very thoughtful approach to taking into account new Egyptian public opinion and sensibilities. There has been no such consideration when it comes to Palestinian politics.

F24: When we say Obama elicited a lot of hope, was that hope among regular Arabs or also among Arab diplomats and leaders?

KE: Both. I don’t know what exactly diplomats and leaders were thinking, but anecdotally, I would say that part of the hope came from the fact that people were relieved that Bush was gone. Obama is someone who doesn’t look or talk like Bush. That pushed expectations even higher. So a lot of it was just relief, because from an Arab point of view, Bush was responsible for a lot of harm: in Iraq, Palestine, and in the Muslim world. So now, they’re saying: “We thought this guy would be really different from Bush, but he’s actually pretty similar -- not in the things he says, but in the things he does.”

F24: In the the wake of the killing of the US ambassador in Libya, Mitt Romney has been attacking Obama on his response. Will this incident have an impact on the presidential race?

KE: It’s not unexpected in an election season that a candidate would use an incident like this for political advantage. And it will resonate in certain circles. But I’m not sure it’s going to have a major impact in one direction or another. This election is not about national security. From what I can gather, the Republicans are not running on national security or foreign policy issues. That could change in the wake of this, if there are more attacks on US embassies. But still, Republicans would have a lot of catching up to do.

This election is actually different, because Democrats have appropriated the language of national security, of being tough on defence. In the past, it was a Republican strength, and Democrats were on the defensive. It will take more than an incident like this to change back to the old dynamic.

F24: As an American president, what could Obama have done differently in concrete terms?

KE: A lot. One thing he should have done when he came in -- though I understand why he didn’t, given the need to have continuity from the previous administration -- is a thorough review of lessons learned from the US failures to advance the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. He should have looked at what’s worked, and what hasn’t. And then when negotiations between Abbas and Netanyahu collapsed two years ago, Obama should have reevaluated things. Instead of expecting a different outcome each time while doing the same thing, why not try to develop a new way forward?

There’s a political cost to each failure on all sides -- but especially when you’re the weakest side and as divided and dysfunctional as the Palestinians. They have no mandate to negotiate, they can’t handle failure. Calling on them to go back to a process that shows no signs of succeeding is proof that the Obama administration has not thought through the lessons of the past.
daveincincy
13 years ago
They (the Arab world) thought Obama would have his Muslim brothers' backs. :-"
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
He started the fire.

He wanted total appeasement.

He wanted acceptance and bowed to everyone.

Never in a million years did he believe that the World looked upon him with amusement. They KNOW an amateur when they see one!
teedubbya
13 years ago
The part that scares me is who are our pros? It certainly isn't the Big O and Romney has zero experience and is proving himself inept. That is scary.

We used to have a handful of people you could rely on..... I don't see many in the next group on either side..... the mayans and chicken little may be right
Papachristou
13 years ago
^ romney has experience in business not foreign policy. obama had experience in nothing when he took office.
teedubbya
13 years ago

^ romney has experience in business not foreign policy. obama had experience in nothing when he took office.

Papachristou wrote:



I don't disagree... all of the above are inept. That's my point
DrafterX
13 years ago
are they gonna take away his peace prize..?? 😕
teedubbya
13 years ago

are they gonna take away his peace prize..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:



they should
OldSchool
13 years ago
Abdul Mustafa is the ultimate douchknuckle.
dkeage
13 years ago

Abdul Mustafa is the ultimate douchknuckle.

OldSchool wrote:




Is that his real name?
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

In Arab world, Obama has fallen from grace

A new poll suggests deep disappointment with the US and Obama’s policies in the Arab world. Middle East specialist Khaled Elgindy sheds light on how a president who once inspired new hope in the region has ended up disappointing so many.

US President Barack Obama’s speech in Cairo in June 2009 was seen as a potential start of a new chapter in relations between America and the Arab world.

But a new survey carried out by international polling firm YouGov in August shows that America today is deeply unpopular in the region; the number of respondents in the Middle East and North Africa who said they don’t trust America was more than double the number of respondents who said they do. 39% of those polled said they do not trust the US at all.

The poll implies that Obama’s more conciliatory tone toward the Arab world, as well as his ending of the war in Iraq and his support of the Arab Spring, have done little to boost America’s standing in the region.

France24.com spoke with Khaled Elgindy, a prominent Middle East specialist at the Brookings Institution in Washington DC, for insight into how a US president who initially inspired hope among Arabs fell so far short of expectations.

F24: The new poll shows Obama to be very unpopular in the Arab world. What are the major sources of disappointment?

Khaled Elgindy: There was obviously a lot of hope when he came in, huge expectations that Arabs and other Muslims had of him. The disappointment reflected in the poll is partly due to the fact that he didn’t live up to expectations. But it’s also because the expectations were exaggerated to begin with – and not just in the Arab world.

In the Arab world, the expectation was that he would do more on the Palestinian issue, which is, of course, a unifying theme in the minds of Arabs. From an Arab point of view, Obama has been consistently bad on that issue, even though in some Israeli circles he has also been seen as abandoning Israel.

Arabs are disappointed because, on the ground, policy has not really changed from the Bush era. Obama has not even reached the most minimal expectations of Arabs. There is a sense that he’s shown disregard for Palestinian government and Palestinian needs, and that it’s a very paternalistic relationship that the US has with Palestinians.

That stands in stark contrast to how the US has adapted its policies in the wake of the Arab Spring. In Egypt, the US has done a fairly good job in adapting to dramatic changes. Even though the president of Egypt is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Obama administration had a very thoughtful approach to taking into account new Egyptian public opinion and sensibilities. There has been no such consideration when it comes to Palestinian politics.

F24: When we say Obama elicited a lot of hope, was that hope among regular Arabs or also among Arab diplomats and leaders?

KE: Both. I don’t know what exactly diplomats and leaders were thinking, but anecdotally, I would say that part of the hope came from the fact that people were relieved that Bush was gone. Obama is someone who doesn’t look or talk like Bush. That pushed expectations even higher. So a lot of it was just relief, because from an Arab point of view, Bush was responsible for a lot of harm: in Iraq, Palestine, and in the Muslim world. So now, they’re saying: “We thought this guy would be really different from Bush, but he’s actually pretty similar -- not in the things he says, but in the things he does.”

F24: In the the wake of the killing of the US ambassador in Libya, Mitt Romney has been attacking Obama on his response. Will this incident have an impact on the presidential race?

KE: It’s not unexpected in an election season that a candidate would use an incident like this for political advantage. And it will resonate in certain circles. But I’m not sure it’s going to have a major impact in one direction or another. This election is not about national security. From what I can gather, the Republicans are not running on national security or foreign policy issues. That could change in the wake of this, if there are more attacks on US embassies. But still, Republicans would have a lot of catching up to do.

This election is actually different, because Democrats have appropriated the language of national security, of being tough on defence. In the past, it was a Republican strength, and Democrats were on the defensive. It will take more than an incident like this to change back to the old dynamic.

F24: As an American president, what could Obama have done differently in concrete terms?

KE: A lot. One thing he should have done when he came in -- though I understand why he didn’t, given the need to have continuity from the previous administration -- is a thorough review of lessons learned from the US failures to advance the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. He should have looked at what’s worked, and what hasn’t. And then when negotiations between Abbas and Netanyahu collapsed two years ago, Obama should have reevaluated things. Instead of expecting a different outcome each time while doing the same thing, why not try to develop a new way forward?

There’s a political cost to each failure on all sides -- but especially when you’re the weakest side and as divided and dysfunctional as the Palestinians. They have no mandate to negotiate, they can’t handle failure. Calling on them to go back to a process that shows no signs of succeeding is proof that the Obama administration has not thought through the lessons of the past.

HockeyDad wrote:



Hmm....no source or attribution for this cut and paste. I've heard somewhere that, that is some kind of major deal on here. Apparently not.
sd72
13 years ago
Whoa. That's ^ not an original essay?
pdxstogieman
13 years ago

They (the Arab world) thought Obama would have his Muslim brothers' backs. :-"

daveincincy wrote:



If he had, there'd be the same suspects criticizing him for that.
wheelrite
13 years ago

If he had, there'd be the same suspects criticizing him for that.

pdxstogieman wrote:



Obama is a train wreck..
rfenst
13 years ago
Here is what i think needs to occur:

Elite Marines, elite Army and elite Navy need to be placed in all the embassies and consulates where radical Islam is not properly controlled. Evacuation plans should be initiated. Helicopters for transport in and out should be guarded by strike helicopters and/or planes. European allies with radical Islam populations should immediately occupy a safety zone around all U.S. government buildings in their countries. Standing shoot and strike to kill orders when necessary in the field/zone. They have been taught to hate the U.S. for decades. I don't give a shyt how many casualties we inflict to get it done. Also, we should raise our security level here at home.
dubleuhb
13 years ago

Here is what i think needs to occur:

Elite Marines, elite Army and elite Navy need to be placed in all the embassies and consulates where radical Islam is not properly controlled. Evacuation plans should be initiated. Helicopters for transport in and out should be guarded by strike helicopters and/or planes. European allies with radical Islam populations should immediately occupy a safety zone around all U.S. government buildings in their countries. Standing shoot and strike to kill orders when necessary in the field/zone. They have been taught to hate the U.S. for decades. I don't give a shyt how many casualties we inflict to get it done. Also, we should raise our security level here at home.

rfenst wrote:


Good start, I believe we need to rethink who we send aid to also. Seems many of the countries we fund are now showing they can't be trusted as our government hoped they could.
teedubbya
13 years ago
We've always had that issue. The shah, bin laden etc. not to mention central and south America.
nitro6526
13 years ago
Yep.
Mr president? This is the CIA. Yeah we have this guy on the inside see.... his name is bin laden and he can help us with the russians. All we gotta do is..... oh wait. He is using those tactics we taught them against us? He can't do that. We are supposed to be allies. That worked out well huh?
frankj1
13 years ago

Here is what i think needs to occur:

Elite Marines, elite Army and elite Navy need to be placed in all the embassies and consulates where radical Islam is not properly controlled. Evacuation plans should be initiated. Helicopters for transport in and out should be guarded by strike helicopters and/or planes. European allies with radical Islam populations should immediately occupy a safety zone around all U.S. government buildings in their countries. Standing shoot and strike to kill orders when necessary in the field/zone. They have been taught to hate the U.S. for decades. I don't give a shyt how many casualties we inflict to get it done. Also, we should raise our security level here at home.

rfenst wrote:


sensible
frankj1
13 years ago

Good start, I believe we need to rethink who we send aid to also. Seems many of the countries we fund are now showing they can't be trusted as our government hoped they could.

dubleuhb wrote:


and then there is Israel...
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