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JKilburn
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#21

^ I honestly think we agree more on this stuff than disagree. I agree with you that teacher entitlements are wrong and that the system is broken but I will defend my wife and friends for they are one of the good ones that spend more time with other peoples kids than these kids parents. I'm not gonna get into an hour per week rumble for you put in alot of hours and deserve to reap the rewards just like certain teachers don't deserve the bs that gets thrown at them. The teachers union isn't perfect that's for sure. I've gotten in arguments with them over ridiculous things pro and con teacher. I realize you know they're are good teachers out in the world too, just like most professions one bad apple can ruin it for everyone.

Papachristou
Aficionado

13 years ago

#22

it doesnt matter since wisconsin is broke (as we all are) and when those teachers go to retire, there just wont be any money.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#23

So are the unions now going to shut down Wisconsin or will there be massive tax increases and will this affect cheese?

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#24

😱

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#25

Wait – is union cheese and guvmut cheese the same? I mean, I’m sure they both go good with whine . . . . .

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#26

So are the unions now going to shut down Wisconsin or will there be massive tax increases and will this affect cheese?

HockeyDad wrote:

They're going on a beer run to Illinois!!!!🐴

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#27

They're going on a beer run to Illinois!!!!🐴

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I've had to do that while visiting Indiana more than once.... 😟

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#28

Union cheese is covered in mold.

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

13 years ago

#29

When it comes to public sector unions they are not self insured. They manage the insurance paid for by the taxpayer and refuse to do what jane and joe public have had to endure, ei; pay more out of pocket and be a bit more frugal with the peoples money. It's not their money so why care, just give me more attitude that has people annoyed.

dubleuhb wrote:

If they go out into the marketplace and buy coverage for their members, they are not self-insured. If they retain the premiums each month and pool, then pay claims out of it they are "self-insured. Most people get confused about this because most self-insured entities hire well known insurers just to administrate the self insured plans. ERISA, baby! ERISA

pdxstogieman
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#30

Union cheese is covered in mold.

HockeyDad wrote:

It's Roquefort.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#31

It's Roquefort.

pdxstogieman wrote:

50 cents extra!

Stinkdyr
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#32

Is there really anyone that thinks public school teachers are being paid too much? As Americans, do we need laws to protect us from the shameless profiteering of the teachers union?

Where are the public workers who are pointing a gun at us and extorting unreasonably high wages?

Brewha wrote:

Ah yes, we do. The point you repeatedly miss is that we who pay the bill, the taxpayers, do not get a seat at the bargaining table with politicians and public unions. This is far different than a corporation dealing with its union workers.

🍺

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Mathen
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#33

I feel like I need to come back in here and clarify some of my earlier rants. They came off as very directed at teachers, but it's the whole effing system that made me hate, hate, HATE working in public education.

Hell, hate is probably not even a strong enough word.

Loathe.

Despise.

I would rather have rabid poodles rain from the sky and eat the flesh off my face then ever work in that system again. That's how I felt about the whole thing. Not just--or even predominately-- the teachers.

The level of incompetence was staggering. The fact that I couldn't fire incompetence, even worse. I could write a book about it, except that no one who has never worked in the Government would believe it! This also extends to the stupid chit the Feds do. Go ahead and read the FAR (that's the Federal Acquisition Regulation) sometime. You'll want to gouge your eyes out with a fork by the time your done.

Then it will dawn on you... My tax dollars fund that stupid bovine waste effluent. And you'll be mad as a hornet.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#34

🤔
flying, rabid, zombie poodles ehh....? 🤔

JKilburn
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#35

I thought I was the only one who had there face eaten off by a rabid poodle falling from the sky. That chit hurts.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#36

Maybe he just isn’t applying himself . . .

rfenst
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

13 years ago

#37

Stinkdyr wrote:

We had that proverbial seat at the table here and failed it miserably.

Last year, we voted on renewing a $.01 school sales-tax in our county and it lost. That is about $.02 extra on a huge grocer shop. A penny on a fast food lunch. That's an amount so small It couldn't make any real difference in 99% of our lives. It is painless. A measly $.01 on any purchase up to several hundred dollars. That is all.

I shudder to give my neighbors a real seat at the table and any more influence about whether teachers can effectively unionize and bargain collectively. They just blew it big-time on the simplest, no-brain-er opportunity they ever had and just won't hesitate to screw us all again.

Brewha
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#38

Sounds like they need better education . . . ..

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