itsawaldo
13 years ago
Chicago Tribune Op-Ed piece from the other day, C&P this for you all, kind of summed it up for me.



Bad Choice

Voters had one candidate promising jobs and another promising free stuff and they chose the free stuff.

We've got four more years ahead of us of rule by executive order, deficit spending and money-printing with no end in sight, with no reform coming for Social Security, Medicare and the tax system, and 8% unemployment and GDP stagnation as the new normal.

Next up: the fiscal cliff, with a president who has not at any time in the last four years shown any interest or ability in working in a bipartison fashion.

This will not end well.


HockeyDad
13 years ago

... or if we've just dodged a headlong a trip into Fascism. Either way, this thought police crap gives me the creeps...

SMGBobbyScott wrote:




It may not be fascism but the dictatorship will rise from the chaos after the USA goes bankrupt. A big enough crisis and people will just willingly hand away their freedoms for the feeling of security. It is just another version of the nanny state mentality already in place.

We didn't dodge anything. We're still on track and maybe accelerated it.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Of every 5 jobs that were created last year, 4 went to immigrants & 1 went to a natural born US citizen.

jetblasted wrote:



I would like to see a breakdown of how many of the jobs were created by poor people, rich people, corporations, and government.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

We're one week past the election and I've already sat in on two meetings where our corporation is discussing how we're going to handle Obamacare, increased taxes, and upcoming federal regulations. I can tell you the discussions sure as hell weren't about adding faclities, buying more equipment and creating jobs.

snowwolf777 wrote:




I'm curious how my large globalist corporation plays this. We can create or eliminate jobs in a vast number of countries. At any given time we're growing in one continent and shrinking in another.
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Chicago Tribune Op-Ed piece from the other day, C&P this for you all, kind of summed it up for me.



Bad Choice

Voters had one candidate promising jobs and another promising free stuff and they chose the free stuff.

We've got four more years ahead of us of rule by executive order, deficit spending and money-printing with no end in sight, with no reform coming for Social Security, Medicare and the tax system, and 8% unemployment and GDP stagnation as the new normal.

Next up: the fiscal cliff, with a president who has not at any time in the last four years shown any interest or ability in working in a bipartison fashion.

This will not end well.


itsawaldo wrote:





They just don't realize our best and brightest days are ahead of us.
SMGBobbyScott
13 years ago

They just don't realize our best and brightest days are ahead of us.

HockeyDad wrote:



Yep, screw OP ED pieces...they have about as much fact in them as a Power Rangers cartoon...
snowwolf777
13 years ago

I'm curious how my large globalist corporation plays this. We can create or eliminate jobs in a vast number of countries. At any given time we're growing in one continent and shrinking in another.

HockeyDad wrote:




So it's like your corporation is breathing. Or some kind of mobile cancer. Creepy.
SMGBobbyScott
13 years ago

It may not be fascism but the dictatorship will rise from the chaos after the USA goes bankrupt. A big enough crisis and people will just willingly hand away their freedoms for the feeling of security. It is just another version of the nanny state mentality already in place.

We didn't dodge anything. We're still on track and maybe accelerated it.

HockeyDad wrote:



Yeah, I'm not buying the Obamagedon gloom and doom quite yet...our country has survived two world wars, a great depression, McCarthyism, and a prolonged war on communism (from within and without). I think that we will figure this out. We are still the strongest economy in the world so far and we will, to paraphrase Winston Churchill, do the right thing, even if it is the absolute last resort...

:-k 🤔 🤔
banderl
13 years ago

Chicago Tribune Op-Ed piece from the other day, C&P this for you all, kind of summed it up for me.



Bad Choice

Voters had one candidate promising jobs and another promising free stuff and they chose the free stuff.

We've got four more years ahead of us of rule by executive order, deficit spending and money-printing with no end in sight, with no reform coming for Social Security, Medicare and the tax system, and 8% unemployment and GDP stagnation as the new normal.

Next up: the fiscal cliff, with a president who has not at any time in the last four years shown any interest or ability in working in a bipartison fashion.

This will not end well.


itsawaldo wrote:



Still can't believe that the Trib endorsed Obama.
tailgater
13 years ago

...I'm a gun carrying redneck of the "pry it from my cold dead hands" variety. I worked for the Santorum campaign during the primaries and have worked for other GOP candidates in the past. I was raised Southern Baptist, my father was a minister and I still attend (at least weekly) an evangelical church. So that puts me firmly in the social conservative branch of the GOP. I also worked in DC during the first Bush Administration...now those credentials were impressive but I won't bore you with those details...blah, blah, blah...

SMGBobbyScott wrote:




Marvelous!
And me? Well, I'm a Scorpio. I like long walks on the beach. I enjoy quiet evenings by the fire.
Social drinker, and yes, I smoke handmade cigars.
But enough about me. Let's hear some more about YOU...


[whip]
teedubbya
13 years ago

Marvelous!
And me? Well, I'm a Scorpio. I like long walks on the beach. I enjoy quiet evenings by the fire.
Social drinker, and yes, I smoke handmade cigars.
But enough about me. Let's hear some more about YOU...


[whip]

tailgater wrote:




I like Pina Coladas
and getting caught in the rain,
I'm not into yoga
I have half a brain,
I like making love at midnight
Wearing chaps and a cape,
I'm the love that you've looked for
PM me and escape
HockeyDad
13 years ago
I'm hungry for Chick-Fil-A.
teedubbya
13 years ago

I'm hungry for Chick-Fil-A.

HockeyDad wrote:



They won't let me in but I have a whopper for you
HockeyDad
13 years ago
8track has a Big MACS.
teedubbya
13 years ago

8track has a Big MACS.

HockeyDad wrote:



When I met him he still had the special sauce all over his chin and lips
victor809
13 years ago

Chicago Tribune Op-Ed piece from the other day, C&P this for you all, kind of summed it up for me.



Bad Choice

Voters had one candidate promising jobs and another promising free stuff and they chose the free stuff.

We've got four more years ahead of us of rule by executive order, deficit spending and money-printing with no end in sight, with no reform coming for Social Security, Medicare and the tax system, and 8% unemployment and GDP stagnation as the new normal.

Next up: the fiscal cliff, with a president who has not at any time in the last four years shown any interest or ability in working in a bipartison fashion.

This will not end well.


itsawaldo wrote:



Never mind the complexities of a presidential campaign and party platforms. The author astutely boiled it down to "Everyone who voted against my candidate wants free stuff, anyone who voted for my candidate wants to be an honest worker."

Really, this is the level of complexity you're able to handle in the world?
teedubbya
13 years ago
Vic maybe the folks running the insane asylum are really the nuttos and don't know it

wow I blew my own mind


victor809
13 years ago



wow I blew myself


teedubbya wrote:



Yoga's been paying off, eh? 🙂
HockeyDad
13 years ago

Vic maybe the folks running the insane asylum

teedubbya wrote:



At least they have a job.
tailgater
13 years ago

Never mind the complexities of a presidential campaign and party platforms. The author astutely boiled it down to "Everyone who voted against my candidate wants free stuff, anyone who voted for my candidate wants to be an honest worker."

Really, this is the level of complexity you're able to handle in the world?

victor809 wrote:



It's the level that the average American voter seems to comprehend.

Look at the presidential election.
For instance, a huge percentage voted against Romney because he "wanted to control a woman's reproductive rights".
Yup.
Forget the deficit. Forget wars in the Middle East. Forget our spiral into bancruptcy.
The new GOP president would have seen to it that woman would have to pay for their own contraception. Then they'd make it illegal to get their coveted abortion. Then they would have paid them 20% less for the same job.
You know that's hogwash, but I bet you've used a portion of these arguments yourself. Probably on these forums.
It's mind boggling to hear such lunacy from supposedly sane people.

And I haven't even mentioned the platform of "fair share". That's an even bigger joke.
Logical discussions can be made about wealth disparity. But to say "Pay your fair share" without identifying what it is and (more importantly) how it will be used is idiotic to put it mildly.

So the "free stuff" mantra from the author isn't too far off from how it unfolded.


And I haven't even touched upon the race issue.
I'm sure lots of backwoods rednecks voted against Obama because he's black.
But about 95% of black voters cast their ballot for Obama.
Think about that. Because if you've ever did any work on consensus, you'd understand how it's almost impossible to get 95% to agree on ANYTHING.
But. Well.
There it is.
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