How long did White Water go on including its morph into Lewinsky? How about Scooter Libby on behalf of Chaney? Remember that one where Scooter took the hit? Did Bush ever commute or pardon him?

so they're gonna get away with it..?? 😕

if there was a cover up..?

I never knew she was a dairy farmer. Thanks Drafter.

Word on the street is, ObaMao is also going to start claiming jus primae noctis...

I think she did some farming back in da 60s but it wasn't cows.... 😟

http://www.salon.com/2012/11/22/a_holiday_guide_to_arguing_with_your_right_wing_relatives/ 

It wouldn’t have been a “better” incident for the administration if there had been a protest before the horrible attack that killed a bunch of people that everyone already knew about. As Matt Steinglass puts it in the Economist:

Such a cover-up would have made no sense because the attack would not have been less politically damaging had it grown out of a spontaneous demonstration. The attack on the Benghazi compound would not have been any less politically difficult for the administration if it had grown out of a riot, nor would any normal voter have expected it to be less politically damaging, nor would any normal campaign strategist have expected any normal voter to have expected it to be less politically damaging. Had Susan Rice gone on the talk shows on September 15th and inaccurately stated that the attackers had been wearing green pants, when in fact their pants had been red, there would be no reason to suspect this to be part of a political “cover-up”, because no American voters could conceivably have cared either way.

A proper cover-up would’ve involved trying to cover up the attack, not weirdly lying about a tangential detail.

If you care........

BREAKING NEWS – Real reason for Benghazi cover up – Executive Order 13491

BY ADMIN, ON NOVEMBER 16TH, 2012

Thanks to one of my brilliant show listeners John Meyer, (former Vet and man who worked for 15 years with classified programs) the real reason for all the cover up and endless disinformation about Benghazi is worse than anything being exposed so far. Today I interviewed Meyer in depth on the phone and on my national radio show www.therothshow.com about his findings. He tied what most of us wouldn’t even have tracked or been aware of. He verified and sent me the actual copy of Executive order 13491, which was signed into law by Obama on Jan 22, 2009. Sec 4 states, ‘all such CIA operations were to cease operation under penalty of the E.O. Yet, 2 years later it was still in operation, with the knowledge of the CIA director, the Sec of State, the Sec of defense, Dr. of the FBI, and all Military commanders sending prisoners to the facility in Benghazi. Verbiage from EO

Sec. 4

Prohibition of Certain Detention Facilities and Red Cross Access to Detained Individuals.

(a)

CIA Detention. The CIA shall close as expeditiously as possible any detention facilities that currently operates and shall not operate any such detention facility in the future.”

What do we know so far from the evidence and testimony in the hearings? We know that Al Kae Da attacked the embassy and in a 7-9 hour attack murdered our Ambassador and his aids. Sources have tracked a potential cover up due to guns behind shipped to rebels in Syria from the ‘missing’ guns in Libya during the war phase. Many have thought Obama was keeping things low profile because of the shipping of all the weapons. Others thought that since it was Al Kae Da who attacked, Obama didn’t want the country to know they were still a huge danger and threat…oh yeah, and that he didn’t wipe them all out. Whalid Shoebat even revealed on my show that an Al Kae Da member had actually been hired to guard the embassy compound up until late 2012. Yeah…that would definitely be something Obama wouldn’t want us to know. The huge, glaring reason was and is —Executive Order 13491. This makes President Obama, the CIA director, Sec. Of State, The Sec. Of defense, Dr. of the FBI and all Military commanders sending prisoners to the facility in Benghazi, criminals. According to Meyer, who worked in classified programs and under executive orders, disobeying and executive order is a serious federal offense.

Lt. Col. Paula Broadwell is implicated in the affair with General Petraus and spoke to her Alma mater revealing knowledge of executive order 13491 I listed above. That in itself was not a revelation of anything classified. Then, what she revealed was the big question. She said to the crowd that 3 prisoners held there at the CIA detention center by the embassy compound had been turned over to the Libyan Government. How did she know that? That was classified. Meyer says that indeed the real reason for the attack was because Al Kae Da wanted to liberate the 3 prisoners who were being held at the CIA compound there indefinitely. Meyer pointed out that during the early hours of the firefight, shooting was aimed high and mortars were not used. That is because at first, they wanted to make sure they didn’t kill the prisoners they were trying to rescue but wanted to kill the guards and those on the roof. They later they found out they had been turned over to the Libyan Government already so they then fired mortars and sought to destroy the Ambassador and whole place.

Do you get it and understand the REAL magnitude of this cover up. According to Obama’s own executive order 13491 this was an illegal facility holding prisoners at the embassy compound. It was ordered to be shut down back Jan 22, 2009 and all listed above who knew about this have committed a major, federal offense.

Give it up, Jamie. The President's supporters couldn't care less. You could post video of the president personally executing Ambassador Stevens, and they'd still give him a pass. The president is the liberal's current god, and he can do no wrong.

So, here's how I generally see it: There are three potential classifications of U. S. citizens on this one: 1) Pro-Obama supporters who believe Obama is God and pray to him as such; 2) Those who instead truly know what is really going on with one or more cover-ups because they have proof of the conspiracy that no one else has or are able to "put the pieces together" in ways no one else can conceive of; and 3) Those who generally don't give a crap because a U.S. CIA outpost- posing as an extension of the Embassy in a very dangerous part of the world- was attacked and a few Americans were killed. Did I summarize it right?

Wow Robert, it's like you're in my brain. You forgot to add the part where the President's faithful stop everything they're doing three times a day, and face Washington as they pray.

Love putting words in folk's mouths, don't ya? Open your eyes. There are many out there that follow this president as if he was a rock/movie star (god), and actually swoon over him. To those (and there are some here), the man can do no wrong.

You do realize that I don't take your retorts personal, right?

Of course I realize that. Otherwise, I wouldn't have directly replied the way I did!

Now, just in case the "Obama is God" thing **might** be right, I plan to "double down" at shul this morning. On my way out the door right now!

Now, if the bet were available, I'd put my money down on the third group of people being the pluraility (once tit was proven that Obama took part in a conspiracy to wrongfully cover-up). That will take at least another 1.5 to 2 years to prove, if ever...

hope you get good seats.

Bingo. But like bad chili, it too shall pass.
Best to put this Benghazi thing behind. Nothing will be done about the scandalous behavior & if we get to the bottom of it, so what? Gigantic waste of time considering the bigger problems ahead.
Just another Flavor of the Month topic...

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There's that 'Please Forget' thing.... what did they promise you Bloody..??

Not a bad seat in the house. While we do have black families who belong to our congregation, Obama wasn't there. 🙏 n the other hand Jack Lew, Obama's chief of staff soon to be Treasury when Geithner leaves, was there a few weeks back on a week-night.

Daughter's friend's sister's BM. We were, unfortunately, all invited. Noah and I cut out a little early so I could go buy an electric blanket- highlight of my weekend- unless the party tonigh is fun, which my experience tells me there is only a 10% chance of.

Probably go inseperate cars...

Could be the tryptophan talkin', Drafter. LOL
But if I hear another overpaid bureaucrat/lawyer rubbing his hands in anticipation of more investigations & hearings, I'll... We all know what REALLY happened during the Benghazi attack. Just as we REALLY know how unprepared this administration is to tackle our problems.
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I have no hidden agenda, this is not a set up question...but who do folks here think really had the last "prepared administration", and would it have been prepared for the kind of battles being fought in this century?

Just been thinking about how different Viet Nam was from previous experinces, and we really had not been trained for what we found there...now it's about those we perceive as crazies waging holy war through terrorism and unfamiliar terrain.

So far it's been three terms, 2 administrations, and the learning curve takes x amount of time, then the accumulation of resources takes time...clearly I'm no military stud, but when was the last time we were truly ready?

Frank

Frank I agree and surprise is your friend in battle.


But this abomination in particular was forewarned.

Very likely indeed, sad to say. And I am not defending nor am I attacking recent administrations, at least not in this post. But I am willing to wait longer than others apparently, I also do not expect that those in charge of our foreign affairs and or defense should be announcing all of our intelligence to the world. As you say, surprise is your friend in battle...

I understand your sentiment Frank and its certainly a reasonable one.

Guess I am tired of all recent administrations seemingly getting away with what they have and I have doubts that anyone of consequence will ever really be held accountable.

Letting an embassy be overrun doesn't scream protecting intelligence.