victor809
13 years ago

Victor,
First, you stated:
"...you fail to paint the picture accurately when you try to claim that the entire thing was democrats trying to paint conservatives... as anti-women"

Then when I tell you that the liberals DID paint conservatives as anti-women, you counter with:

"Of course they did. When the opponent manages to say sh$t that can alienate 50% of the voter population, you'd be an absolute idiot not to try capitalizing on it. I see nothing wrong with keeping these blunders in the forefront, it's good tactics and both sides are perfectly fine doing it."


so which part of the picture did I paint inaccurately?


This isn't the rugby locker room. You can't have it both ways...
🇨🇮

tailgater wrote:




The critical word is "entirely"

Your entire argument is based on omission (which I stated at the beginning). As in, you only are attributing action to the evil democrats, and try to paint the republicans as poor passive victims in this "anti-women shaming".

I'm trying to bring some sanity to the arguments, to point out that the truth (as always) is really somewhere in the middle.

victor809
13 years ago
What I really find amazing about this entire thing is the vitriol and hate some people/groups have for this woman.

Seriously....

I can fully understand being ideologically opposed to giving anyone anything at all. But to hate someone so much simply because they are willing to testify that "Yes, if you give me something, that will make my life easier." That's really the extent of what she was asked to do.

For some reason what should have been a sane discussion turned into vivid descriptions of what a bunch of old men imagine her sex life to be.

teedubbya
13 years ago
tailgater
13 years ago

The critical word is "entirely"

Your entire argument is based on omission (which I stated at the beginning). As in, you only are attributing action to the evil democrats, and try to paint the republicans as poor passive victims in this "anti-women shaming".

I'm trying to bring some sanity to the arguments, to point out that the truth (as always) is really somewhere in the middle.

victor809 wrote:



Huh?
It was entirely the liberals who painted the republicans as anti-women.

The GOP did not paint themselves as such.

What's your point?
victor809
13 years ago

Huh?
It was entirely the liberals who painted the republicans as anti-women.

The GOP did not paint themselves as such.

What's your point?

tailgater wrote:



Don't be obtuse, that becomes irritating in this medium.

"fail to paint the picture accurately when you try to claim that the entire thing was democrats trying to paint conservatives"

entire. As in there is more to the story than "liberals painting the republicans as anti-women".

As in you were purposely omitting a number of other things that occurred in the timeline.

As in you were "lying by omission".

tailgater
13 years ago

What I really find amazing about this entire thing is the vitriol and hate some people/groups have for this woman.

Seriously....

I can fully understand being ideologically opposed to giving anyone anything at all. But to hate someone so much simply because they are willing to testify that "Yes, if you give me something, that will make my life easier." That's really the extent of what she was asked to do.

For some reason what should have been a sane discussion turned into vivid descriptions of what a bunch of old men imagine her sex life to be.

victor809 wrote:



There is nothing sane about expecting (and getting) insurance to cover contraception, and to then consider it a "right".

It's difficult to therefore initiate a sane discussion when the premise is insane.

And the sanity if further buried when it's reported that republicans wanted to "Take away a woman's right to contraceptives".

This is/was the message pushed by the left, and bought hook line and sinker by the same brain-trust that voted for Obama.



Besides, it's not vitriol when it's true.

😟
tailgater
13 years ago

Don't be obtuse, that becomes irritating in this medium.

"fail to paint the picture accurately when you try to claim that the entire thing was democrats trying to paint conservatives"

entire. As in there is more to the story than "liberals painting the republicans as anti-women".

As in you were purposely omitting a number of other things that occurred in the timeline.

As in you were "lying by omission".

victor809 wrote:



No. Actually I wasn't.

I don't claim the GOP wouldn't jump on a similar open door. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about Fluke and her insane perspective that is embraced by the left. And then extrapoloted out to the extreme.

You call me obtuse and claim I'm ommitting something on purpose, yet you've been unable to state exactly what that is.


DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

There is nothing sane about expecting (and getting) insurance to cover contraception, and to then consider it a "right".

It's difficult to therefore initiate a sane discussion when the premise is insane.

And the sanity if further buried when it's reported that republicans wanted to "Take away a woman's right to contraceptives".

This is/was the message pushed by the left, and bought hook line and sinker by the same brain-trust that voted for Obama.



Besides, it's not vitriol when it's true.

😟

tailgater wrote:




They scream for the contraception but want the abortion!

You can't make this crap up!

Just kick a bag of money to every vacant idiot and be done with it.
DrafterX
13 years ago


As in you were "lying by omission".

victor809 wrote:




:-k
victor809
13 years ago

There is nothing sane about expecting (and getting) insurance to cover contraception, and to then consider it a "right".

It's difficult to therefore initiate a sane discussion when the premise is insane.

And the sanity if further buried when it's reported that republicans wanted to "Take away a woman's right to contraceptives".

This is/was the message pushed by the left, and bought hook line and sinker by the same brain-trust that voted for Obama.



Besides, it's not vitriol when it's true.

😟

tailgater wrote:



http://www.whatthefolly.com/2012/02/23/transcript-sandra-fluke-testifies-on-why-women-should-be-allowed-access-to-contraception-and-reproductive-health-care/ 

Here's the transcript of her testimony. Find the word "right" in the transcript.

Technically, it is vitriol whether it's true or not. But the concept of "women's rights" was never addressed in the entire testimony. Therefore your vitriol appears to be misplaced.

victor809
13 years ago

No. Actually I wasn't.

I don't claim the GOP wouldn't jump on a similar open door. But we're not talking about that. We're talking about Fluke and her insane perspective that is embraced by the left. And then extrapoloted out to the extreme.

You call me obtuse and claim I'm ommitting something on purpose, yet you've been unable to state exactly what that is.


tailgater wrote:




I specifically enumerated what you omitted. Just because it was 50 posts ago don't pretend that I didn't do it. reread post 28
Brewha
13 years ago

I don't know her.
But as a rule, I don't like those who feel entitled to things. As such, I guess you're probably spot on.

As for angst and venom?
Really? Because I used one strongly negative term?
Word of advice: Don't sit next to me at a football game.
My language may be only PG rated, but I use a bunch of negative terms and also allude to the oppositions rugby-like preferences at times.
You'd pull your hair out.

tailgater wrote:



Oh, perhaps I overstated the angst a tad . . . . .

But the gist of the OP is that this pizzes you off. Not that Time was wrong for any real of discernable reason.

I guess you’re just angry that your team is losing.
:-"
Brewha
13 years ago

I was jealous of Brewha.

ZRX1200 wrote:



For the record, I think the Subway tuna rocks.
And DMV’s dietary choices do not surprise me.







Btw - what is the recipe for Holy Crap? Do you take regular fresh crap and cook the Hell out of it?
Oh, well . . .bon appétit!
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

For the record, I think the Subway tuna rocks.
And DMV’s dietary choices do not surprise me.







Btw - what is the recipe for Holy Crap? Do you take regular fresh crap and cook the Hell out of it?
Oh, well . . .bon appétit!

Brewha wrote:




Yo...moron...I said I'd RATHER eat Holy crap...IDK, maybe from the Pope than eat a tuna melt from Subway. Then you turned it into me actually eating it...=d> ...thanks for being a real douchebag fuckhole.
ZRX1200
13 years ago
Well you scared me....

I ended up with a chipolte steak and was left to just imagine Fluke.


What a let down.
Brewha
13 years ago

Yo...moron...I said I'd RATHER eat Holy crap...IDK, maybe from the Pope than eat a tuna melt from Subway. Then you turned it into me actually eating it...=d> ...thanks for being a real douchebag ****hole.

DrMaddVibe wrote:



You know, if you’re not careful you are going to hurt my feelings . . . . .


How about I send you a Subway tuna melt?
DrafterX
13 years ago
it would prolly mean more if you made it yourself.... 😟
DrafterX
13 years ago
🤔
I never realized there was a demand for melted tuna.... I wonder if I can get funding for a solar tuna melter.... 🤔 🤔
Brewha
13 years ago

it would prolly mean more if you made it yourself.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Just between us Drafter, I don't think DMV likes me.
And I don't get it. We both like Frank Zappa. We both like cigars. True, I am not into the Papal delicacies, butt hay, to each his own.

Maybe I just talk to fast . . . .
tailgater
13 years ago

I specifically enumerated what you omitted. Just because it was 50 posts ago don't pretend that I didn't do it. reread post 28

victor809 wrote:



Read it.
But I already responded to that post.

Just because you can cite opposing examples doesn't mean I omitted anything.

Fluke is somehow relevant because she became the poster child to prove the GOP hate women. Stick with the subject at hand.
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