jackconrad
13 years ago
They fluked up again!
DadZilla3
13 years ago

Time nominates Sandra Fluke for ‘Person of the Year’

tailgater wrote:



Almost, but not quite, as ludicrous as Obama getting a Nobel Prize.
rfenst
13 years ago
Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but:

Anyone even read Time?
Anyone TRULY care who TIME selects as person of the year?
Anyone think TIME will select Fluke?

Gene363
13 years ago

Sorry to be a buzz-kill, but:

Anyone even read Time?
Anyone TRULY care who TIME selects as person of the year?
Anyone think TIME will select Fluke?

rfenst wrote:



The last time I picked up a copy of Time it was the last magazine left in a hospital waiting room.

I put it back.

tailgater
13 years ago

Your right, he doesn't have a leg to stand on. And yet . . . . .



Tailgater, as I recall you consider your heartfelt opinions as 'truth'. So by that standard, how could your angst driven posting be untrue?

Remember; anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering, and suffering leads to Bipolar paranoia with a side of OxyContin.

Brewha wrote:



I ask for you to point out what isn't true.
This is your response?

You type just to read what you're thinking. Don't you?
tailgater
13 years ago

It's true only in it's omission of additional information.

At the basest level, you're correct that the discussion over payment for contraceptives has nothing to do with a "war on women".

However, you fail to paint the picture accurately when you try to claim that the entire thing was democrats trying to paint conservatives (who just wanted to civilly maintain that payment for birth control isn't a right) as anti-women.

The reality is that what should be a civil discussion turned into a "war on women" when a random female who wanted to have her birth control covered was suddenly depicted as a whore (see short-buses comment above, claiming a random woman he's never met is a "come dumpster").

She didn't do anything great, I agree. She became a lighting rod for a lot of stupid people to say stupid things they didn't know anything about. That's what gained the headlines.

victor809 wrote:



The liberals DID paint the conservatives as anti-women. It was a major topic of discussion during the debate. Hell, as governor, Romney hired more women than any other governor at that time. Yet he was taken to task during the debates and he blundered his way into the now famous "binders of women" comment.

This is REAL, Vic. Only you're too biased to see it.

And don't confuse Rush Limbaugh with the conservative viewpoint. He's good for a laugh now and again, but he does not speak for the GOP.

Fluke wanted her insurance to cover contraceptions.
Her employer-paid insurance refuse and cited religion as the reason.
Fluke took it to the streets and the media. It instantly became a war on woman, with the conservatives trying to "deny access" to contraception.

Don't let the Limbaugh-inspired jokes confuse you.

victor809
13 years ago

The liberals DID paint the conservatives as anti-women. It was a major topic of discussion during the debate. Hell, as governor, Romney hired more women than any other governor at that time. Yet he was taken to task during the debates and he blundered his way into the now famous "binders of women" comment.

tailgater wrote:


Of course they did. When the opponent manages to say sh$t that can alienate 50% of the voter population, you'd be an absolute idiot not to try capitalizing on it. I see nothing wrong with keeping these blunders in the forefront, it's good tactics and both sides are perfectly fine doing it.


This is REAL, Vic. Only you're too biased to see it.

And don't confuse Rush Limbaugh with the conservative viewpoint. He's good for a laugh now and again, but he does not speak for the GOP.


Ohh.... ok. So it's the Democrats and that evil "liberal media". But I'm not supposed to confuse Rush Limbaugh as being part of the conservatives. Double standard TG. You may not want to ally yourself with that idiot, but your party has. They use him to reach idiots like shortbuspopcornboy with concepts like "she uses birth control therefore she's a come dumptser". These people are conservative voters too.


Fluke wanted her insurance to cover contraceptions.
Her employer-paid insurance refuse and cited religion as the reason.
Fluke took it to the streets and the media. It instantly became a war on woman, with the conservatives trying to "deny access" to contraception.

Don't let the Limbaugh-inspired jokes confuse you.


Reeally?
This is your view of the timeline? I just looked it up. Here's the actual series of events:
1 - The United States House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform scheduled a hearing in Feb titled "Lines Crossed: Separation of Church and State. Has the Obama Administration Trampled on Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience?" Sounds pretty non-partisan and innocuous, right?
2 - The Dems tried to get Fluke on the list as a speaker, ostensibly to provide an example of someone who is in a religious institution and would like them to provide birth control. This isn't a ridiculous idea, usually you'd like to hear the voice of whoever you're going to impact with a decision. I'm sure Fluke was politically active before, but this is when she first hit the spotlight.
3 - The House Committee said she didn't have enough credentials to speak (I'm not 100% sure what credentials someone would need regarding this.... but that was their claim). This was the hilarious photo-op of a bunch of old white guys telling a woman she doesn't have the credentials to discuss female birth control insurance rules.
4 - The Dems then made their own special meeting (Feb 16) where they had her speak. This was purely a political move, but a well played one painting the republicans as a bunch of old white guys who don't want to hear a woman's voice regarding these issues.
5 - Limbaugh then decided to start calling her a slut and a prostitute. Idiots started mimicing him.
6 - Profit!
Brewha
13 years ago

I ask for you to point out what isn't true.
This is your response?

You type just to read what you're thinking. Don't you?

tailgater wrote:



I believe you missed my point TG. I was saying that your posting was marinated in venom, basted with angst, peppered with disdain. I was calling you a hater, and not questioning the accuracy of your opinions.

Now I might be wrong, but you don’t like Sandra Fluke, do you?
rfenst
13 years ago

I believe you missed my point TG. I was saying that your posting was marinated in venom, basted with angst, peppered with disdain. I was calling you a hater, and not questioning the accuracy of your opinions.

Now I might be wrong, but you don’t like Sandra Fluke, do you?

Brewha wrote:




When will you stop ****-footing around and be more direct?
Brewha
13 years ago

When will you stop ****-footing around and be more direct?

rfenst wrote:


Your right – and he won’t even appreciate my circuitous writing designed to be polite . . .
tailgater
13 years ago

I believe you missed my point TG. I was saying that your posting was marinated in venom, basted with angst, peppered with disdain. I was calling you a hater, and not questioning the accuracy of your opinions.

Now I might be wrong, but you don’t like Sandra Fluke, do you?

Brewha wrote:



I don't know her.
But as a rule, I don't like those who feel entitled to things. As such, I guess you're probably spot on.

As for angst and venom?
Really? Because I used one strongly negative term?
Word of advice: Don't sit next to me at a football game.
My language may be only PG rated, but I use a bunch of negative terms and also allude to the oppositions rugby-like preferences at times.
You'd pull your hair out.


DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
For renewing his membership to Time magazine...Brewie got the Sandra Fluke Limited Edition Scratch n' Sniff picture edition![gonzo]
tailgater
13 years ago
Victor,
First, you stated:
"...you fail to paint the picture accurately when you try to claim that the entire thing was democrats trying to paint conservatives... as anti-women"

Then when I tell you that the liberals DID paint conservatives as anti-women, you counter with:

"Of course they did. When the opponent manages to say sh$t that can alienate 50% of the voter population, you'd be an absolute idiot not to try capitalizing on it. I see nothing wrong with keeping these blunders in the forefront, it's good tactics and both sides are perfectly fine doing it."


so which part of the picture did I paint inaccurately?


This isn't the rugby locker room. You can't have it both ways...
🇨🇮

DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

This isn't the rugby locker room. You can't have it both ways...
🇨🇮

tailgater wrote:





Well...we know who the pivot man is now!
ZRX1200
13 years ago
I just stopped at subway for a tuna melt what did I miss?
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

I just stopped at subway for a tuna melt what did I miss?

ZRX1200 wrote:




A decent lunch?[whip] [frypan]
tailgater
13 years ago

A decent lunch?[whip] [frypan]

DrMaddVibe wrote:


Holy crap, that's funny!
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Holy crap, that's funny!

tailgater wrote:




I think I'd rather eat holy crap than eat a tuna melt from Subway![whip] =d> 🐴
ZRX1200
13 years ago
I was jealous of Brewha.
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