gringococolo
13 years ago

The Chinese are busy buying gold & will be introducing a gold backed currency (Renminbi) in a few years displacing the dollar & this is the garbage minutiae we wallow in? 😣

bloody spaniard wrote:




Si.
dpnewell
13 years ago

My wife and I do my BIL's taxes every year. He makes about 35k and supports a family of 7. He doesn't take food stamps out of pride, but he did get some Obama Phones (I'm not joking). Those phones now sit in a drawer, still being charged to the government. His oldest daughter goes to community college for free, and gets a small stipend.

He paid -$1000 in federal taxes... Thats right, he paid zero and got a $1000 extra back. His actual return was like $5500 back to him for all the taxes he "paid" READ WAS "WITHELD" FOR BREWHA, and his child tax credits.

His heart is in the right place. Three of the kids are his, two are "permanant foster", and are actually relatives from a crazy crackhead 2nd cousin of my BIL's.


This isn't some anecdotal story I am making up, it's the way things are. I think the tax system is about as fair as it's going to get. We can tax the rich ten times higher and it's not going to make a single bit of difference to my BIL. He already pays nothing, and actually gets money from the govt every year on top of all his withheld taxes returned. He, like the rest of the "poor", will not benefit in the least. His "rich" employers certainly will not increase his salary.



Flat tax is not good. Sounds good, but look at other socialist countries (just look at Germany tax system).

gringococolo wrote:




You think that's something? I have a family friend that I do taxes for. Last year he earned just under $20,000 with 8 to support. His taxes where -$7,884 (I just pulled up the return). He had ZERO withheld and still got a check for $7,884 due to Child Care Credits, Additional Child Care Credits, and Earned Income Credits. Just for giggles, I slowly increased his income to see what it would do to his refund. If I add $3k in income, his refund maxs out around $8,250. After that it starts to decline.

If anyone doesn't believe me, run the numbers in your tax program. I think most of you will be shocked.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
As an ex-Reaganite & potential Obama cone of protection collectivist, I am shocked, shocked I say by your tale!!

Nice seeing you, Gringo.
victor809
13 years ago
TG - I read loopholes to be things like mortgage credits, child credits, that sort of thing. I think of this as more a way to reduce the actual income the government sees entering your hands.

You can say "everyone pays 35% tax"... but you have to decide what number that 35% is applied to. Its easy for a w2 worker, but any other "income" can be reduced through business expenses and cost of goods... same as in a corporation.
RICKAMAVEN
13 years ago
ZRX1200

ANYTHING THAT STARTS WITH "A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE" SHOULD BE IGNORED,
WHATEVER FOLLOWS WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT WILL PREVENT
WOMEN'S EQUALITY, ALLOW 30 BULLET CLIPS, AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
INCLUDING ASSAULT WEAPONS AND FLAME THROWERS,
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
Bear arms?

I prefer lobster claws...the occasional crab claws too.
stogiefan
13 years ago

ZRX1200

ANYTHING THAT STARTS WITH "A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE" SHOULD BE IGNORED,
WHATEVER FOLLOWS WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT WILL PREVENT
WOMEN'S EQUALITY, ALLOW 30 BULLET CLIPS, AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
INCLUDING ASSAULT WEAPONS AND FLAME THROWERS,

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Conservative meaning a strategically guarded lower estimate not conservative as in political philosophy. God you are worthless.
DrafterX
13 years ago
just because it's a semi-automatic rifle doesn't mean it's an assault rifle.... [-(
ZRX1200
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13 years ago
Uncle Rick I have never taken my semi automatic rifle into a vagina I don't know who you used to date....

Since you're obsessed with a woman's right to kill a fetus, let me ask you where this crazy guys equality was at. He did the same thing just in the 24th trimester.
ZRX1200
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13 years ago
Let's make doctor's illegal!
nicholasjames
13 years ago

maybe you never asked...


😎

tailgater wrote:




some things are self obvious.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

Let's make doctor's illegal!

ZRX1200 wrote:




Ahem...Obamacare#-o
dpnewell
13 years ago

just because it's a semi-automatic rifle doesn't mean it's an assault rifle.... [-(

DrafterX wrote:



Sure it does. Once they ban these evil semi-autos, they'll be going after those rapid fire revolers. I mean, who the heck needs a gun capable of spiting out 6 deadly rounds in a matter of seconds? And don't forget those high powered bolt action "sniper" rifles. Why would any American need a gun that can kill at 300 yards?
DrafterX
13 years ago
I saw a canon that would shoot a pumpkin 300 yards easy..... 😟
dpnewell
13 years ago

ZRX1200

ANYTHING THAT STARTS WITH "A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE" SHOULD BE IGNORED,
WHATEVER FOLLOWS WILL PROBABLY INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT WILL PREVENT
WOMEN'S EQUALITY, ALLOW 30 BULLET CLIPS, AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
INCLUDING ASSAULT WEAPONS AND FLAME THROWERS,

RICKAMAVEN wrote:



Just shows your total ignorance of the 2nd amendment, and our founding father's original intent. The founding fathers where so concerned about an out of control, oppressive government that they wanted private citizens to have the right to own weapons of war. In early America, most cannon was privately owned, and Kentucky Long Rifles where far more deadly and accurate then the military muskets of the time. Educate yourself Uncle Rick, instead of just throwing out ignorant liberal talking points.


But then again, back then we didn’t have a bunch of self-centered folks coddled by a Liberal education system, that think the world revolves around them.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago
I'm all for the 2nd amendment but have no dog in this debate nor interest in weapons other than my b.o. and deadly stare.
You folks, on the other hand, better get used to the idea than all guns will eventually be seized and banned. It's inevitable and, bluster nonwithstanding, you can't do anything about it. You're either fooling yourself or suicidal if you think otherwise.

Good on yer pumpkin cannon, Drafter. Let me know when you find one that fires merengue. Yum
dpnewell
13 years ago

I'm all for the 2nd amendment but have no dog in this debate nor interest in weapons other than my b.o. and deadly stare.
You folks, on the other hand, better get used to the idea than all guns will eventually be seized and banned. It's inevitable and, your bluster nonwithstanding, you can't do anything about it. You're either fooling yourself or suicidal if you think otherwise.

Good on yer pumpkin cannon, Drafter. Let me know when you find one that fires merengue. Yum

bloody spaniard wrote:



Oh, believe me, I see the writing on the wall. We either give up our weapons, kiss our freedoms goodbye, and accept government oppression as the new norm, or resist and are murdered or imprisoned by said government.
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

Oh, believe me, I see the writing on the wall. We either give up our weapons, kiss our freedoms goodbye, and accept government oppression as the new norm, or resist and are murdered or imprisoned by said government.

dpnewell wrote:





Not sure to what degree nor how quickly it'll happen, dpnewell, but what can you do about it?
I don't think that today's American is any different than yesterday's British or Australian. When it happens it happens. There may be a few pockets of opposition here and there but... (shrugging shoulders). Give 'em sports, porn, drugs, and bread...
DrafterX
13 years ago

I'm all for the 2nd amendment but have no dog in this debate nor interest in weapons other than my b.o. and deadly stare.
You folks, on the other hand, better get used to the idea than all guns will eventually be seized and banned. It's inevitable and, bluster nonwithstanding, you can't do anything about it. You're either fooling yourself or suicidal if you think otherwise.

Good on yer pumpkin cannon, Drafter. Let me know when you find one that fires merengue. Yum

bloody spaniard wrote:




too many guns out there Bloody... they can't take them all... but they will go after certain types and keep after the others... just not going to get them.... 🤐
bloody spaniard
13 years ago

too many guns out there Bloody... they can't take them all... but they will go after certain types and keep after the others... just not going to get them.... [-(

DrafterX wrote:




True (for now) but Big Brother's technology marches on & it's only a matter of time. Think of what would happen if arms are stigmatized & punished with jail time like illegal drugs and bounties are paid for snitching on neighbors.
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