Brewha
13 years ago

ya..... there seems to be a larger agenda out there.... I'm buying more ammo... 😟

DrafterX wrote:


Don't for get the clips . . . . .
Brewha
13 years ago

Why should anyone have an expectation of government fiscal solvency for their children? Next thing you know, we will be giving them tax cuts, tax deductions and government sponsored medical care...

rfenst wrote:


Dogs and cats living together - real Old Testament stuff . . . . .
rfenst
13 years ago

Dogs and cats living together - real Old Testament stuff . . . . .

Brewha wrote:



All right, all right! I get the point!
frankj1
13 years ago
your op is correct Jamie, this only becomes a left or right issue of outrage when a lefty or righty swing in government occurs. therefore every citizen should be outraged by the current and potential erosion of our rights and freedoms FROM government even when one's "side" is in power.

Good thread. Thanks
ZRX1200
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13 years ago
Thanks for that ^ good to hear your response
rfenst
13 years ago

your op is correct Jamie, this only becomes a left or right issue of outrage when a lefty or righty swing in government occurs. therefore every citizen should be outraged by the current and potential erosion of our rights and freedoms FROM government even when one's "side" is in power.

Good thread. Thanks

frankj1 wrote:



SCOTUS can overturn this and every other legislative attempt to broaden government search and seizure powers. Since it could serve to suppress freedom of speech/expression ("Chilling Effect"), it can be challenged without a specific case to which it has been applied. That is, it can be prospectively brought before a federal court without anyone even claiming specific, personal damage.
frankj1
13 years ago

SCOTUS can overturn this and every other legislative attempt to broaden government search and seizure powers. Since it could serve to suppress freedom of speech/expression ("Chilling Effect"), it can be challenged without a specific case to which it has been applied. That is, it can be prospectively brought before a federal court without anyone even claiming specific, personal damage.

rfenst wrote:


somewhat comforting, but how would it get to them, and how would the current SCOTUS rule...in your opinion?
ZRX1200
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13 years ago
Robert in this new age I have no faith that that they cannot be gotten to. And they are appointed by the same people doing this from both sides.
DrafterX
13 years ago

SCOTUS can overturn this and every other legislative attempt to broaden government search and seizure powers. Since it could serve to suppress freedom of speech/expression ("Chilling Effect"), it can be challenged without a specific case to which it has been applied. That is, it can be prospectively brought before a federal court without anyone even claiming specific, personal damage.

rfenst wrote:




They could....unless Obama says it would be bad to do so... 😟
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