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Monday, April 8, 2013 2:38:17 PM
". . . customer versions of the Bugatti are electronically limited to 258 mph for safety reasons." πŸ€”

World's fastest controversy continues as Guinness puts speed record under review

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/04/08/world-fastest-controversy-continues-as-guinness-puts-top-speed-record-under/?intcmp=features#ixzz2Ptlo5qQj 

DrafterX
Monday, April 8, 2013 2:40:37 PM
πŸ€”

at what speed would the car try to fly..?? πŸ€”

DrMaddVibe
Monday, April 8, 2013 2:45:20 PM
"But this goes to eleven!":-"
Buckwheat
Monday, April 8, 2013 3:26:35 PM

:-k

at what speed would the car try to fly..?? πŸ€”

DrafterX wrote:

Any speed above ~100 MPH if it hits a big enough of a bump.](*,)

kyman84
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:19:37 PM

:-k

at what speed would the car try to fly..?? πŸ€”

DrafterX wrote:

Never... The faster it goes, the more it pushes down. It produces 882lbs of downforce at top speed.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/bugatti-veyron-2011-bugatti-veyron-164-super-sport-review 

I don't however understand exactly why you would limit the top speed of a car that is marketed as the fastest production car. Especially when you are only limiting it by 14mph, or something close to that. Is it that much more dangerous at its true top speed? There are also very few places you could actually reach the governed top speed of 253mph anyway.

jpotts
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:24:15 PM
Not sure if the Bugatti does this, but some cars have computers on them that will drop the car body lower to the road at higher speeds.
DrafterX
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:24:21 PM
that's what made me wonder about the flying thing.... something happens at that speed... 😟

:-k I wonder where I can rent one... I'll find out.... πŸ€”

DrafterX
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:26:09 PM

Not sure if the Bugatti does this, but some cars have computers on them that will drop the car body lower to the road at higher speeds.

jpotts wrote:

some of the corvettes do that.... I still think the car might to try to take off... even with downward force at some point enough air is gonna get flowing underneath it to create lift... πŸ€”

jpotts
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:29:08 PM
I think the only way that would happen is if you had a large enough surface area to provide lift. However, because the wheels have to make contact with the ground, any lift you'd get would almost be immediately lost once the wheels lift from the ground.

Maybe if the had a rocket engine ala the Batmobile that might be a possibility.

DrafterX
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:35:14 PM
nascars fly all the time at 150mph... as soon as the wheels leave the ground they're heading up.... even tho the Bugatti is better equipped for the higher speed there will be a point it looses stability... 😟
kyman84
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:35:35 PM

Not sure if the Bugatti does this, but some cars have computers on them that will drop the car body lower to the road at higher speeds.

jpotts wrote:

It does drop it ride height at some speed, and extend flaps to create more downforce. Then there is the tops speed mode, which drops the car a bit more, and reduces the down force a so it can get the last ~30mph out of it.

engletl
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:49:23 PM

Never... The faster it goes, the more it pushes down. It produces 882lbs of downforce at top speed.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/bugatti-veyron-2011-bugatti-veyron-164-super-sport-review 

I don't however understand exactly why you would limit the top speed of a car that is marketed as the fastest production car. Especially when you are only limiting it by 14mph, or something close to that. Is it that much more dangerous at its true top speed? There are also very few places you could actually reach the governed top speed of 253mph anyway.

kyman84 wrote:

It is really simple as to why they limit the top speed. There are no tires that can survive extended runs above 250 mph that are street legal

quoted from your link

"A set of the Super Sport’s special Michelin tires costs $42,000 and may last 10,000 miles if you’re careful, though they last only 15 minutes at the car’s top speed"

jpotts
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:51:45 PM

nascars fly all the time at 150mph... as soon as the wheels leave the ground they're heading up.... even tho the Bugatti is better equipped for the higher speed there will be a point it looses stability... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

True. But I'd think there'd be a difference in ground clearance between a NASCAR vehicle and an exotic sports car that would make it easy for maybe one type to flip, and another to remain grounded.

Not that I've ever had the chance to measure ground clearances on any of these vehicles.

daveincincy
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:52:20 PM

nascars fly all the time at 150mph... as soon as the wheels leave the ground they're heading up.... even tho the Bugatti is better equipped for the higher speed there will be a point it looses stability... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

You definitely don't want to take your Bugatti out on the (hilly) country roads and test the limits. You better be on some really flat road with no imperfections. Then again, this guy probably thought he was safe on the track at high speeds in a race car. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIJ4q3PD57A (not sure what the pucker factor was on that, but I'm guessing he clinched so tight he may have just about sucked himself inside of himself like a vacuum)

jpotts
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:53:55 PM

You definitely don't want to take your Bugatti out on the (hilly) country roads and test the limits. You better be on some really flat road with no imperfections. Then again, this guy probably thought he was safe on the track at high speeds in a race car. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIJ4q3PD57A (not sure what the pucker factor was on that, but I'm guessing he clinched so tight he may have just about sucked himself inside of himself like a vacuum)

daveincincy wrote:

Actually, you'd just want to keep it in a graage, and rub it with a diaper...

(Anyone get the reference?)

daveincincy
Monday, April 8, 2013 4:56:58 PM

True. But I'd think there'd be a difference in ground clearance between a NASCAR vehicle and an exotic sports car that would make it easy for maybe one type to flip, and another to remain grounded.

Not that I've ever had the chance to measure ground clearances on any of these vehicles.

jpotts wrote:

Chances are good that if you have a curb at the end of your driveway, you're not getting either one in the garage. 😳

If you want to get an idea of what it would be like to reach the top speed in a Bugatti, watch Jeremy Clarkson from Top Gear....if this is the right video, I think he may have taken a few years off of his life.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk1t6S737Cs (it might be James May, not Jeremy...Youtube blocked at work)

jpotts
Monday, April 8, 2013 5:06:23 PM
The sad part about this is that I could probably ask my oldest son some of this stuff, and he'd probably be able to give me all the detailed information I'd ever want to hear.

The kid is a car fanatic.

daveincincy
Monday, April 8, 2013 5:11:56 PM

The sad part about this is that I could probably ask my oldest son some of this stuff, and he'd probably be able to give me all the detailed information I'd ever want to hear.

The kid is a car fanatic.

jpotts wrote:

Watch the Youtube link I just posted, and you'll probably get all the info you needed AND you'll be entertained.

DrafterX
Monday, April 8, 2013 5:13:07 PM
I would bet the air dam or spoiler on front of a nascar is lower than any auto-lowering air dam on a production car... 😟

but ya, we need a kid to look this stuff up.... I'm too lazy I guess.... [melllow]

ZRX1200
Monday, April 8, 2013 5:23:27 PM
Harra's ( I believe) car Museum in Reno Nevada has a 60's era racecar that is wedge shaped that was very dangerous. It was so low at speed that if it got bumped or ran over one that there would actually be an explosion of air under the car.

Michael (one of the curators and friends with Leno) did one of the walk through guides one time I went through. He actually raced that car and said it handeled wonderfully until........BOOM! Never got inside it again.