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Jordan screwed over the Palestinians originally , which created the current situation...

You really should read more...

wheelrite wrote:

and don't forget we recently learned they also own all the land from the river to the sea (maybe more!), per the written warranty you suggested they should have received in a recent thread. I pointed out they did have that document. It's called....The Old Testament. Read it, great stuff.

Clever bait that it is to use the irony of Nazi linked terminology against the very same victims of their planned genocide merely decades later, it is a poor analogy.

Slumlords, maybe, but Neo-Concentration Camp counselors? Total fail! If the Nazis ran theirs for this poorly, there'd be countless millions more Jews alive and thriving on the planet today. Sanitized dictionary def aside, the term is used purposely here.

The showers in Gaza and the West Bank provide water, not life extinguishing gas. Sometimes I genuinely think you are brilliantly and even ironically funny, and sometimes I think you need to examine your motives if being playful isn't really one of them.

frankj1 wrote:

If that's true, I just learned something new about addictive behavior.

I knew I should have used those little smiley guys to clarify sarcasm. I'm not really depressed by the gloom portrayed here.

And I certainly hope you aren't speaking from first hand knowledge.

frankj1 wrote:

can you tell I've been drinking?

frankj1 wrote:

One day everyone has to meet their Maker and justify what they played an active role in, what they ignored, and what they collaborated with during their lives. Perhaps the Old Testament is adequate justification for actions. Perhaps it is not. When the Messiah comes, do you think he will request to visit the watch towers, barbed wire, minefields, tanks, and artillery that surround the Gaza Strip and West Bank and say "This pleases me."

No freedom of movement. All goods in and out only at the permission if the Israel guards. The showers run water only when the Israeli guards allow it. Step too close to the fence and you get shot. No right of citizenship. Not even a right to be a second-class citizen. In continuous operation for 46 years. The crime committed by the inmates.....they are not Jewish.

It sure sounds like a concentration camp. I never said Nazi extermination camp. There is quite a difference.

When God asks "What is the meaning of all this?" we shall explain that it is just a slum. Hopefully God will have forgotten about the Warsaw ghetto and not see any parallel.

HockeyDad wrote:

Since this thread has evolved into a middle east theme, who are our allies there?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Since this thread has evolved into a middle east theme, who are our allies there?

bloody spaniard wrote:

Turkey
Israel
Egypt
Jordan
Saudi Arabia
Iraq
Kuwait
Dubai
Qatar
United Arab Emirates
Bahrain
Oman
Pakistan*
Afghanistan*

HockeyDad wrote:

So you lump everyone together, such as Qatar (rhymes with gutter) and Israel?

Which of those allies do you think would unequivocally & w/o hesitation come to our aid (soldiers, technology, air space...) if the US were attacked?

bloody spaniard wrote:

:-k

Where does the US have military bases?

](*,)

DrMaddVibe wrote:

In around half that list of nations. Most notably not Israel and Egypt.

HockeyDad wrote:

Now? Right now?
WTF knows. We had a pristine opportunity to overturn the proverbial "apple cart" in Iran...the youth only wanted our mouthpiece as support...they were willing to toss the religious zealots out of their government and we did nothing.

Then in Egypt we went "all-in" for a militant islamofascist group of thugs to toss out a guy who was almost as bad, but had control of the people and understood the military really runs the nation.

Both of these nations would love to see Israel wiped from the map and have been vocal about it. Our current clowncar is compliant in supporting them with weapons or ramping up the march to war. We don't have "allies" there anymore. We've meddled in their business and the blowback is what we get for CIA controlled demolotion of nations in that region.

The sooner we just implode under our own debt being the world cop the better.

Selling weapons, music and movies...that what we do.

Those nations will delight in any stumble we take and will dogpile at every instance...ever wonder where the massive support is for the Iraqis? Who's supplying them with weapons, soldiers streaming across the border just to take a hit at our boys? 🤔 Say it?

IRAN.

A thorn that should've been removed by the highly educated youth of Iran that the Kenyan King let die on the vine.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Oh it's more than half Mister!

DrMaddVibe wrote:

I never thought I would applaud this.=d>
To say that we are putting our boys and girls in harms way for the interests of the American taxpayer is a travesty and a lie. That is why I no longer thank servicemen for their "service" abroad. I consider it a dangerous job involving nation destroying and rebuilding that is meted out by self- serving military contractors whose loyalties lie elsewhere ($$$) NOT in our country. Put them to work protecting our borders or searching for terrorists within our border. THEN, they are doing a service for our country!

bloody spaniard wrote:

prolly 3/4.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Those US bases in Israel are a secret though.

I knew a friend's husband who was with a fighter squadron in Jordan during the First Gulf War but of course we were never really there.

HockeyDad wrote: