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tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#21

I like suits.

TimFusco
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

#22

They're illegal. They get NOTHING!

Look at how they treat their own southern border and get back to us.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Amen!

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#23

We already have a safe and legal pathway towards obtaining US citizenship.

This talk I'm hearing on the Hill now...they think it's some watered down commodity. All they want is a new bloc of voters that will vote for them giving away the free "candy".

There's a reason why other nations used to believe we were the greatest nation...making war and setting up bases in every single one isn't it. They all wanted the freedoms we were born with. It shouldn't be free or come with "candy".

Stinkdyr
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#24

WELFARE = ECONOMIC TERRORISM

think about it.

🌫

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#25

🤔

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#26

The Left-Wing Lie Machine Takes A Mortal Blow

Oh the irony!

U.S. authorities were on their way to a mountainous region in southern Russia to interview the parents of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, as more details emerged about the brothers' recent activities in the U.S., including word of where the deadly explosives may have been purchased and that the family relied on welfare for at least some of their time here.

The brothers hated America.

They loved, however, "transitional assistance benefits" -- in other words, welfare.

That's right folks -- we paid these clowns to live while they were radicalizing themselves and declaring that America was "the great Satan" and worthy of bombing.

How's it feel in those liberal bastions this morning? You now have hard proof that your political policies and "redistribution" factually funded these clowns while they made their plans to blow up runners at the Marathon.

Take a bow, liberals, to the fruits of your policy.

It gets better.

The elder brother bought fireworks -- a lot of them too ($400 worth) -- in February. That's not exactly a time when most people shoot off fireworks, is it? Even better, he bought fireworks that are full of both lift and bursting charges which are typically black-powder compounds -- exactly the sort of explosive that was identified in the bombs.

The Fibbies have said that he didn't buy enough to make the bombs, but that's just one sale they know of. This particular fireworks dealer scanned the guy's driver license, but unless something has changed recently this is pretty uncommon. I've bought plenty of fireworks and the only thing most of the places I've gone to have wanted is my money. How many more fireworks stores did these two visit?

There goes the "mad bomber uses GUN SUPPLIES" argument too!

It gets even better -- a majority of Bostonians apparently figured out that the cops would be happy to come by and sweep up the mess after the terrorists got done with them. See, the majority seem to have responded that they'd have preferred to have a gun during such an event.

Naw, go figure -- you have a couple of madmen on the loose who have proved they'll walk up to cops and shoot them, and the people would like to have a fighting chance at self-defense?

One by one this incident is taking the bogus arguments used for years by the lying left and demolishing them. The terrorists were not "Jesus-loving, bible-banging right-wing freaks" -- they were Muslims. The terrorists were not native-born Americans, they were immigrants that we coddled and allowed to remain in the country despite one of them committing a disqualifying crime. We not only ignored the older brother's domestic violence we funded them with welfare, literally paying them to live while they hated us and ultimately decided to try to kill us all. The guns the terrorists bought were not purchased through some "loophole" since there wasn't one that was possible given the state's laws on firearms, proving that a criminal doesn't give a damn about laws whether they pertain to guns or anything else. Massachusetts has factually had a near-doubling of murders since passing its "strict" gun control, about 60 a year, while the mad bombers managed to kill four, meaning that the bombers did less damage than one month's butcher bill from Massachusetts liberal gun-banning law, drawing a clear picture on exactly how destructive said laws have been to the life and liberty of Massachusetts residents.

Those on the left have run out of both arguments and excuses and this incident runs the flag all the way up the pole on that account.

http://market-ticker.org/post=220087

Remember...Russia even called several times to say that the boys and mom were radicalized...just sayin'!

The Kenyan King knew.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#27

Still think they had NO IDEA???

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, Boston Bombing Suspect, Listed On Classified Government Watch List

The name of one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was listed on the U.S. government's highly classified central database of people it views as potential terrorists. But the list is so vast that this did not mean authorities automatically kept close tabs on him, sources close to the bombing investigation said on Tuesday.

Tsarnaev, 26, was killed in a police shootout early Friday, while his younger brother Dzhokhar, 19, was captured later that day. Prosecutors say the brothers, ethnic Chechens who had been living in the United States for more than a decade, planted two bombs that exploded near the finish line of the marathon on April 15, killing three people and wounding more than 200.

The sources said Tamerlan Tsarnaev's details were entered into TIDE, a database maintained by the National Counterterrorism Center, because the FBI spoke to him in 2011 while investigating a Russian tip-off that he had become a follower of radical Islamists.

The FBI found nothing to suggest he was an active threat, but all the same placed his name on the "Terrorist Identities Datamart Environment" list. The FBI has not said what it did find about Tsarnaev.

But the database, which holds more than half a million names, is only a repository of information on people who U.S. authorities see as known, suspected or potential terrorists from around the world.

Because of its huge size, U.S. investigators do not routinely monitor everyone registered there, said U.S. officials familiar with the database.

As of 2008, TIDE contained more than 540,000 names, although they represented about 450,000 actual people, because some of the entries are aliases or different name spellings for the same person. Fewer than 5 percent of the TIDE entries were U.S. citizens or legal residents, according to a description of the database on the NCTC website.

TIDE AND OTHER DATABASES

The TIDE database is one of many federal security databases set up after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The database system has been criticized in the past for being too cumbersome, especially in light of an attempted attack on a plane in 2009. Intelligence and security agencies acknowledged in Congress that they had missed clues to the Detroit "underpants bomber" Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab. Officials said after the incident that he had been listed in the TIDE database.

Republican Senator Susan Collins said there were problems in sharing information ahead of the Boston bombings, too.

"This is troubling to me that this many years after the attacks on our country in 2001 that we still seem to have stovepipes that prevent information from being shared effectively," she said. Collins was speaking after the FBI gave a closed-door briefing to the Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday, but she did not elaborate.

However, in the case of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the issue appeared to be that because he was not deemed an active threat, his name was only briefly on a list that would have triggered monitoring.

Tsarnaev was not put on the "no-fly" list that would have banned him from boarding an airplane in the United States. Neither was he named on the Selectee List, which would have required him to be given extra security screening at airports.

Another list, the Terrorist Screening Database, is a declassified version of the highly classified TIDE with fewer details about terrorist suspects. One source said Tsarnaev was on this list, too.

After being put in the TIDE system, his name was entered in another database, this one maintained by the Homeland Security Department's Customs and Border Protection bureau which is used to screen people crossing U.S. land borders and entering at airports or by sea.

Tsarnaev was flagged on that database when he left the United States for Russia in January 2012 but no alarm was raised, presumably because the FBI had not identified him as a threat after the interview.

When he returned from Russia six months later, he had already been automatically downgraded in the border database because there was no new information that required him to continue to get extra attention. So he did not get secondary inspection on his re-entry at New York's JFK Airport. It was unclear exactly what the procedure was for such a downgrade.

Sean Joyce, deputy director of the FBI, defended the FBI's performance in the Boston bombings at two closed hearings in Congress on Tuesday.

While government agencies declined to publicly discuss how the watch list system handled Tsarnaev, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano disclosed some details at a separate, open hearing on immigration on Capitol Hill.

"Yes, the system pinged when he was leaving the United States. By the time he returned, all investigations - the matter had been closed," Napolitano told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

Bob Grenier, former chief of the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, said the effectiveness of watch list systems is dependent on what information was put in them, adding that unless authorities had a strong piece of information against somebody, they were not going to put restrictions on people in a free society.

Republican Senator Lindsey Graham said law enforcement should have kept a closer eye on Tsarnaev after the FBI spoke to him two years ago. The FBI should also have realized last week following the bombings that he was in databases, Graham told reporters.

"After the bomb went off, don't you think one of the first things the FBI would do is say, 'Have we interviewed anybody in the Boston area that may fit the profile of doing this?' How could his name not pop up, the older brother? And when you have the photo the whole world is looking at, how could we not match that photo with him already being in the system?" Graham said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/24/tamerlan-tsarnaev-boston-bombing-govt-watch-list_n_3143866.html

Fast and Furious...Benghazi...this...wake up...the thieves are on the inside! The killers are here and we know it.

DadZilla3
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#28

Fast and Furious...Benghazi...this...wake up...the thieves are on the inside! The killers are here and we know it.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

No problem. The Blame Game will now kick into high gear.

1. Failure by the Republicans to support 'immigration reform'
2. Failure by the Republicans to support increased firearm background checks
3. Failure by the Republicans to support budget proposals, resulting in a 'forced' sequester and cutbacks
4. Last but not least, it's never too late to blame the previous administration

TimFusco
Aficionado Topic Starter

13 years ago

#29

Just stay focused on the one man who will be held to blame....Bush.

Buckwheat
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#30

..and you're still stupid.

So?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Doc, you generally make better arguments when you don't call people stupid. Do better brother. You are smarter than that!! 🌫

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#31

Doc, you generally make better arguments when you don't call people stupid. Do better brother. You are smarter than that!! 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

You are correct...however Fuzz has proven time and time again that he cannot read the English language...thread to thread...he's a repeat offender.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#32

'Dumb-ass' sounds better and is a little more effective too.... 😟

'ate up with the dumb-ass' says it all...... 😟

Edited by user 13 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#33

'Dumb-ass' sounds better and is a little more effective too.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Then he's going to want to talk about his short shorts and crap like that...it's borderline creepy...he gets off on it.

Sick I tell ya.

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#34

You are correct...however Fuzz has proven time and time again that he cannot read the English language...thread to thread...he's a repeat offender.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Of course this is true. You're the coolest guy on an Internet message board who gets to shout down others and sit with a smug grin. Your powers of argument are *far* more advanced than mine. If you're really interested in discussion, and not just posting things for people who already agree with you, then you'd grow up.

I don't agree with you, one of many on here who has both white male privilege and enough disposable income to support our mutual habit/hobby, on Welfare though...to get back on point.

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#35

Then he's going to want to talk about his short shorts and crap like that...it's borderline creepy...he gets off on it.

Sick I tell ya.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

You're the one who brings other people's butts into play...pun intended.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#36

tegulator wrote:

Someone pass the Kleenex...he's having a Georgetown beatdown moment!

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#37

You're a child.

HockeyDad
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#38

one of many on here who has both white male privilege

tegulator wrote:

Excuse me....the term is "invisible backpack of privilege."

tegulator
Connoisseur

13 years ago

#39

Excuse me....the term is "invisible backpack of privilege."

HockeyDad wrote:

I'll start using that. 🙂

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

13 years ago

#40

Excuse me....the term is "invisible backpack of privilege."

HockeyDad wrote:

Who knew he has a job now? Last we heard he was on the couch watching Dora the Explorer folding laundry and fetching groceries to cook while attending night school.

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