jackconrad
13 years ago

Assuming this is 100% true, will it make any difference?
Is it even really relevant to what happened between him and Treyvon that night?

Devil's Advocate: Charles Manson escapes from jail and several days later rescues some people whose vehicle rolls over in a crash. Is it relevant to the history of those he and his minion killed and tried to kill? Shall we excuse him?

rfenst wrote:



That's assuming he did something wrong which has not been proven . What has been proven is that the Left and the media generally are using him to promote their own agendas .
rfenst
13 years ago

^ I didn't go out of my way to study anything extra about his trial but I think it shows a side of him that wasn't talked about.
I don't believe he got out of his car that night with any intent other than to see where TM was going. Somehow he got into a fight and I'd have to agree, that if i started seeing stars and don't take some drastic steps they may be the last thing I see. At that point it's me or him and it won't be me and yes panic would be my motivation.
Ill bet any of you would do the same, regardless of race creed sex, survival kicks in.
Only in hindsight can we presume he over-reacted, we were not there and according to Florida state law he, in the end, took action to save himself.
Sorry TM, sorry to his family, wish it never happened to any of them.

itsawaldo wrote:




Where you are coming from?

I watched the entire trial live, except for one day when I had to watch it on replay at night. I am certain in my head and heart that "not guilty" was the proper verdict. Admittedly, I waited until the trial to make my mind up solely based on the evidence submitted at trial- as opposed to the news versions of the evidence.

As to what happened that night, I am very sorry for both of them- they made themselves victims. One died. the other will live with it for the rest of his life in ways we cannot know.

That being said, I have an alternate theory...
rfenst
13 years ago

That's assuming he did something wrong which has not been proven . What has been proven is that the Left and the media generally are using him to promote their own agendas .

jackconrad wrote:




You must be kidding. Just the left, NOT the right?
Seriously, are you serious?

Every side of every thing/everyone has "skin" in this one. A simple murder trial has been turned into the biggest news event of the year. Sharpton, et al ramped it up and then everyone else jumped in the boat. EVERYONE.

Jack, this isn't political: L v. R; Dem v. Rep; black rights v. white laws; and so on and so forth...
It is social. It has to do with race, which is not political. Religion, which is not political. The media- which some think is political; gun controversy; Good v. bad...

Example: I think he was "not guilty based on the trial. You feel he is not guilty too. Neither of us would think for a minute we are on the same place on the political spectrum, yet we agree on this (and more than you may ever know know), but for different reasons.
itsawaldo
13 years ago
As I was writing about showing his character of helping others... thought it needed more and got carried away.
Decided to tell you all that if I found myself in that position i would do the same.
To me it sounded like he should not have been charged before the trial but I too felt not guilty was proper from the facts reviled on whatever local news I was watching but was willing to abide by the courts decision
I appreciate and like reading your insight on all things legal that show up on this forum.
I'm sure most all of us too feel sorry for everyone involved.
engletl
13 years ago

Where you are coming from?

I watched the entire trial live, except for one day when I had to watch it on replay at night. I am certain in my head and heart that "not guilty" was the proper verdict. Admittedly, I waited until the trial to make my mind up solely based on the evidence submitted at trial- as opposed to the news versions of the evidence.

As to what happened that night, I am very sorry for both of them- they made themselves victims. One died. the other will live with it for the rest of his life in ways we cannot know.

That being said, I have an alternate theory...

rfenst wrote:


I am curious as to what this theory is
dpnewell
13 years ago

I am curious as to what this theory is

engletl wrote:



It's all Bush's fault. Several years ago, Bush had Cheney kidnap Zimmerman. He was taken to Halliburton where he was brainwashed and "conditioned" to kill minorities. He's been a walking time bomb ever since, just waiting for a coded phone call from Bush to set him off.










Opps, I better add this -------> [sarcasm] , before some idiot thinks I'm serious.
DadZilla3
13 years ago

It's all Bush's fault. Several years ago, Bush had Cheney kidnap Zimmerman. He was taken to Halliburton where he was brainwashed and "conditioned" to kill minorities. He's been a walking time bomb ever since, just waiting for a coded phone call from Bush to set him off.

dpnewell wrote:


I heard that Halliburton programmed Zimmerman to start whacking minorities as soon as he finished reading 'The Catcher in the Rye' 🤫
rfenst
13 years ago

I am curious as to what this theory is

engletl wrote:



Just fooling around with that statement. Sorry.

Anyhow, only one person truly knows what happened out there.
rfenst
13 years ago

As I was writing about showing his character of helping others... thought it needed more and got carried away.
Decided to tell you all that if I found myself in that position i would do the same.
To me it sounded like he should not have been charged before the trial but I too felt not guilty was proper from the facts reviled on whatever local news I was watching but was willing to abide by the courts decision
I appreciate and like reading your insight on all things legal that show up on this forum.
I'm sure most all of us too feel sorry for everyone involved.

itsawaldo wrote:



That's cool. Hope you know I wasn't "coming at you".
rfenst
13 years ago
It made the front page of today's Orlando Sentinel, which is owned by Tribune. No way this gets or can be buried now.
TMCTLT
13 years ago

You must be kidding. Just the left, NOT the right?
Seriously, are you serious?

Every side of every thing/everyone has "skin" in this one. A simple murder trial has been turned into the biggest news event of the year. Sharpton, et al ramped it up and then everyone else jumped in the boat. EVERYONE.

Jack, this isn't political: L v. R; Dem v. Rep; black rights v. white laws; and so on and so forth...
It is social. It has to do with race, which is not political. Religion, which is not political. The media- which some think is political; gun controversy; Good v. bad...


Example: I think he was "not guilty based on the trial. You feel he is not guilty too. Neither of us would think for a minute we are on the same place on the political spectrum, yet we agree on this (and more than you may ever know know), but for different reasons.

rfenst wrote:







What an entire load of Sh*t.....this case WAS absolutely used politically by your man in the White House(political)
Blamed on a Racist White God by the good Profeesor @ U of P ( Religious )
Blacks responsible for 47-53% of murders while comprising 13% and a staggering 85% of those against people of their own race. Yu and I both know as soon as the Al Sharptons / Barry Satoros 's heard the name GEORGE ZIMMERMAN.....they were Certain they had yet another piece of info that would help feed their hateful agenda. ( RACE)
And to compare this case to the Manson murders says volumes about YOU.....[-x

Q / So when the Sharptons / Wrights of the world use their hateful vitriol to advance their obvious agenda, the Right as you put it is suppose to sit back and keep their mouths shut?



Just fooling around with that statement. Sorry.

Anyhow, only one person truly knows what happened out there.

rfenst wrote:





Again your wrong, two people knew what happened out there, only one lived to tell his story. He had injuries consistent with HIS version of the story....but politically biased media tried to spin this story from the onset and help make it look like Zimmerman was the aggressor.
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago

What an entire load of Sh*t.....this case WAS absolutely used politically by your man in the White House(political)
Blamed on a Racist White God by the good Profeesor @ U of P ( Religious )
Blacks responsible for 47-53% of murders while comprising 13% and a staggering 85% of those against people of their own race. Yu and I both know as soon as the Al Sharptons / Barry Satoros 's heard the name GEORGE ZIMMERMAN.....they were Certain they had yet another piece of info that would help feed their hateful agenda. ( RACE)
And to compare this case to the Manson murders says volumes about YOU.....[-x

Q / So when the Sharptons / Wrights of the world use their hateful vitriol to advance their obvious agenda, the Right as you put it is suppose to sit back and keep their mouths shut?







Again your wrong, two people knew what happened out there, only one lived to tell his story. He had injuries consistent with HIS version of the story....but politically biased media tried to spin this story from the onset and help make it look like Zimmerman was the aggressor.

TMCTLT wrote:




+1


It wasn't about race.

Stop listening to the race baiters. The President included! All they do is deflect attention from the real issues and suck money down an endless hole.


The NAACP's charge to end the folly of "Stand Your Ground" laws...given the factual stats above...and you can g00gl3 them for yourself and find them...who do you thing the repeal is gonna hurt? Seriously! NAACP, better mind what you ask for...you just might get it!


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itsawaldo
13 years ago
+1 DMV, insert two whites, blacks, asians, women, gays, rednecks, wall street types and the results, based upon the facts presented will be the same.

DadZilla3
13 years ago

The NAACP's charge to end the folly of "Stand Your Ground" laws...given the factual stats above...and you can g00gl3 them for yourself and find them...who do you thing the repeal is gonna hurt? Seriously! NAACP, better mind what you ask for...you just might get it!

DrMaddVibe wrote:



The NAACP either is clueless, or more likely is deliberately ignoring, cases highlighting the importance of Stand Your Ground law protection after a justified self defense shooting where the shooter is black.

One classic example was another instance of a racially mixed confrontation. In this case the shooter, Jay Lewis - a middle class, middle aged Federal employee with a CCW permit - was black and the guy he shot was white. In this case, the shooter, Jay Lewis, was financially ruined and ended up without a roof over his head.

http://www.radioiowa.com/2012/03/07/man-who-shot-in-self-defense-now-cause-celebre-at-statehouse/ 

You see, NAACP, I realize that it is in your self-interest to pretend it is still the segregated 1950's in the USA but nowadays law abiding black people should have the same right to protect themselves that law abiding white people do.
tailgater
13 years ago

Assuming this is 100% true, will it make any difference?
Is it even really relevant to what happened between him and Treyvon that night?

Devil's Advocate: Charles Manson escapes from jail and several days later rescues some people whose vehicle rolls over in a crash. Is it relevant to the history of those he and his minion killed and tried to kill? Shall we excuse him?

rfenst wrote:



Was Manson acquitted of all charges?

HockeyDad
13 years ago

That's cool. Hope you know I wasn't "coming at you".

rfenst wrote:




He was standing his ground anyway!
teedubbya
13 years ago
I heard 9-11 is Clinton's fault
DrafterX
13 years ago

I heard 9-11 is Clinton's fault

teedubbya wrote:




it was.... if he had taken Osama when Sudan offered him up 9/11 would have never happened... 🤐 🤐
DrMaddVibe
13 years ago
If only Bubba wasn't so concerned with staining up a chubby dumb intern's dress with ****...he might've done something about OBL!
DrafterX
13 years ago
I heard Hillary wouldn't let him... 😟
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