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Abrignac
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12 years ago

#21

I assume so.

Brewha
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12 years ago

#22

I assume so.

Abrignac wrote:

He was astute. You, not so much . . .

ZRX1200
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12 years ago

#23

I vote for more than 90 days.

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#24

I watched face the nation this morning also... apparently shutting down the gubment is no big deal... ole Tipper did it 12 times.... 😟

wheelrite
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12 years ago

#25

The uneducated masses are largely conservative Republicans. And really, who the hell understands what they think.

Brewha wrote:

oh my,,,

the Obama phone, snap card crowd are all Rhode scholars , right ?

Edited by user 12 years ago | Reason: Not specified

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#26

He was astute. You, not so much . . .

Brewha wrote:

What ever you say old stone face.

rfenst
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12 years ago

#27

Please tell me that you are not implying that is was ok to pass this mess before the bill was made available to ALL committee members who had sufficient time to digest it and consider its ramifications.

You're an attorney Robert. Surely you're not gonna go to trial when your clients case is to be decided on a 10,000 page before you have sufficient time to study it.

"We've got to pass this bill to see what's in it" ~ Nancy Pelosi

Abrignac wrote:

You are correct. I generally would not- so to speak. Instead, I would rely on others' summaries of the vast majority of it, focusing myself on the crucial parts pertinent to the dispute... if only I were a trial lawyer...

wheelrite
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12 years ago

#28

What ever you say old stone face.

Abrignac wrote:

Hey Brewha really is a good dude, although a commie ****,,,

seriously,,,

wheel,

rfenst
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12 years ago

#29

I watched face the nation this morning also... apparently shutting down the gubment is no big deal... ole Tipper did it 12 times.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

It is wrong IMO. Wonder how "dangerous"/stressful it was to do back then.

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#30

It is wrong IMO. Wonder how "dangerous"/stressful it was to do back then.

rfenst wrote:

I dunno... but they sure make it sound bad now... I never noticed back then.... plus how bad can a 24 hour shutdown be..?? they make it sound like months... just a minor detail left out on accident I'm sure... 😟

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#31

and I agree... I don't want to see it shut down either... but it won't be the end of the world if it does... 😟

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#32

Hey Brewha really is a good dude, although a commie ****,,,

seriously,,,

wheel,

wheelrite wrote:

I know. He and have actually spoken. We just find little we argree on politically.

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#33

Oh. Well if you had participated in the elections and watched the debates you would have heard about Obamacare before.

Just sayin'

Brewha wrote:

For what it's worth, I've voted in every election held in my voting precincts for the past 30 years. I watched most of the debates, if that's what you want to call them. But, as they say, the devil is in the details and few details were shared before it was passed.

DadZilla3
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12 years ago

#34

The uneducated masses are largely conservative Republicans. And really, who the hell understands what they think.

Brewha wrote:

Yep, quite unlike the largely sophisticated and erudite liberal Democrats.

Edited by user 12 years ago | Reason: Not specified

rfenst
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12 years ago

#35

DrafterX wrote:

It is bad. Very bad. The economy is still fragile now. We have worldwide news and updates everywhere 24/7 now. Everyone knows exactly what is going on all over the world.and it has been beaten into our heads. Technology intertwines worldwide. The dollar is no longer overwhelmingly dominant like it used to be...

Abrignac
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12 years ago

#36

rfenst wrote:

The current situation is a product of Majority Rules. Is there a better system? Not that I've seen.

This piece of legislation was forced through Congress on a paper thin majority vote with a win at all cost attitude. Assuming the Dems would continue to have a controlling majority in both houses as well as their man in the White House this is a done deal. But, therein lays the fatal flaw in this plan.

As soon as this was passed, the Dems lost control of the House. So now the Repubs are exercising their will over the very same group of people who in essence told them to fucq off. So now the those on the left are saying those on the right are shutting down the government. To think that a single person would hold either party solely to blame for the sorry state of affairs is an insult to the intelligence of everyone.

The government has for all intents and purposes been dysfunctional for some time now. What it now resembles is a bad marriage where each partner goes back 20 years in history to dig up some trifling tidbit of minutiae to cast blame away itself and towards the other partner.

The notion that majority rules may be a is a fact of life, but that doesn't mean it's the best solution in all situations. At some point our leaders need to learn to work with each other for the common good of the nation, not to help each other get elected.

dubleuhb
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12 years ago

#37

No, it was touted as "affordable healthcare". You thinking of the "read my lips, no new taxes" speach.

Brewha wrote:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obamacare-website-quietly-deletes-reference-free-health-care_757348.html

Care to elaborate ?

Brewha
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12 years ago

#38

Hey Brewha really is a good dude, although a commie ****,,,

seriously,,,

wheel,

wheelrite wrote:

You really are too kind Wheel.

But “commie” is soooo nineteen fifties. You really need to work on that.
As far as the ”****” goes, Hey, who can argue with that?