More political theatre of the absurd. Who cares? Really, who gives a chit? I may not have food or health benefits but let them mess with MY national memorials and I'm going postal (unless it is some BS federal "holiday" - i.e. Columbus day). 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

Friggin right....without remembering history, we're bound to repeat it. Without Our basic freedoms.....food and medical care doesn't amount to ****.....

TMCTLT wrote:

I agree about remembering history. But do you really believe that visiting a national Memorial is going to enlighten people about WWII more than actually studying about it in school or reading about it? My point was that it is a joke when these assbag politicians are partially to blame for the shutdown in the first place. Have you been personally been affected by the temporary closure of any of these Memorials? These politicians want to have us believe that they give two squirts of piss about any of us by storming this Memorial that they caused to be closed. What a bad joke.

Buckwheat wrote:

I agree about remembering history. But do you really believe that visiting a national Memorial is going to enlighten people about WWII more than actually studying about it in school or reading about it? My point was that it is a joke when these assbag politicians are partially to blame for the shutdown in the first place. Have you been personally been affected by the temporary closure of any of these Memorials? These politicians want to have us believe that they give two squirts of piss about any of us by storming this Memorial that they caused to be closed. What a bad joke.

Buckwheat wrote:

Interesting statement when it is Congress that holds the purse strings to the government not Obama. And politics is the only thing that this government shutdown is about. Both sides will only be satisfied if they can claim some sort of "victory" in all of this mess. Until then all of america is being held hostage to our broken two party political system.

Buckwheat wrote:

In the big picture, yes, but the chain of command for the people closing the monuments goes right up to Obama.

Gene363 wrote:

Enlightened?? I dunno....but I DO believe that when a person actually sees all those names which represent lives lost defending either Our freedoms both here and abroad. I think ThAT sight is quite overwhelming and I'm not convinced that one gets " that " impact from reading a book. Besides, we've become so PC and left leaning that our screwels have stopped teaching a lot of this!!And all said and done, I do believe there are adequate opportunities to prevent anyone from starving....and most regardless of income receive medical care.

TMCTLT wrote:

So we pick and chose then. 1 is more important then the other.

Taps86 wrote:

In the big picture, yes, but the chain of command for the people closing the monuments goes right up to Obama.

Gene363 wrote:

Obama did the picking, he allowed the a protest on the Mall and kept open other government facilities, while closing monuments that are not even closed on holidays or at night.

Gene363 wrote:

Clearly we are at different ends in our opinions concerning the causes and remedies of the shutdown.

Buckwheat wrote:

Interesting statement when it is Congress that holds the purse strings to the government not Obama. And politics is the only thing that this government shutdown is about. Both sides will only be satisfied if they can claim some sort of "victory" in all of this mess. Until then all of america is being held hostage to our broken two party political system.

Buckwheat wrote:

Clearly we are at different ends in our opinions concerning the causes and remedies of the shutdown. All of the typing in world is not going to sway either of us from our opinions. I just see this event as a purely political undertaking of the politicians involved to score points and not to really open this monument for the vets. Those are my principles (and opinions), and if you don't like them... well, I have others. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

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How anyone doesn't see this is beyond me. These politician can give 2 chits about the military & vets. They are using them as pawns as last ditch effort.

Taps86 wrote:

Clearly we are at different ends in our opinions concerning the causes and remedies of the shutdown. All of the typing in world is not going to sway either of us from our opinions. I just see this event as a purely political undertaking of the politicians involved to score points and not to really open this monument for the vets. Those are my principles (and opinions), and if you don't like them... well, I have others. 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:

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How anyone doesn't see this is beyond me. These politician can give 2 chits about the military & vets. They are using them as pawns as last ditch effort.

Taps86 wrote:

Politicians love the military. That is why we keep finding them middle eastern countries for them to visit.

HockeyDad wrote: