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12 years ago
What James Madison teaches us about NSA surveillance

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/12/18/what-james-madison-teaches-us-about-nsa-survelliance/?intcmp=latestnews 

"Appealing to the nation’s founding ideals, he continues, “the author of our Constitution, James Madison, who cautioned us to beware ‘the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power,’ would be aghast.”

“Perhaps it is a universal truth,” James Madison wrote Thomas Jefferson in 1798, “that loss of liberty at home is to be charged against provisions against danger, real or pretended, from abroad.” With revelations about the NSA not only capturing American citizens’ communications but also sharing them abroad, we should stop and ask ourselves whether we are proving Madison correct."

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jpotts
12 years ago
James Madison was a while, slave-holding, sexist bigot. Following a man like that is ill advised.

Better to idolize Martin Bashir because he is liberal, and speaks with a pseudo-English accent (which is indicative of intelligence to most leftists out there).
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12 years ago
🤦

We all have our issues. Weren't they all like that back then?

But that aside, wasn't he speaking about our new system at the time?

Does his personal life, of the time, detract from the words of freedom for the new country?

Hmmm.. one of the authors of the new constitution.. we should just scrap all that and become socialists, eh?

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(of course, I'm sure I would lose any public debate about anything... but the basic principles seem ok to me.)





Oh, Ok, the Martin Bashir thing brings this back into perspective. 😇

DrafterX
12 years ago
George Washington had like 300 slaves... but he ate dinner in wet clothes and died... 😟
jpotts
12 years ago

#-o

We all have our issues. Weren't they all like that back then?

But that aside, wasn't he speaking about our new system at the time?

Does his personal life, of the time, detract from the words of freedom for the new country?


bs_kwaj wrote:



You forget that we are for more "enlightened" nowadays than our Founding Fathers, who were a bunch of Bible-thumping, genocidal maniacs bent on reaping their fortunes on the backs of the common people in the guise of "industry."

We have eliminated the ills of humanity including racism, sexism, murder, theft, rape, and intoxication. There is nothing we can learn from people like Madison. We've grown so much since then.

While you're at it, bend a knee to Idi Amin Jr., and thank him for his grand benevolence.
Buckwheat
12 years ago

You forget that we are for more "enlightened" nowadays than our Founding Fathers, who were a bunch of Bible-thumping, genocidal maniacs bent on reaping their fortunes on the backs of the common people in the guise of "industry."

We have eliminated the ills of humanity including racism, sexism, murder, theft, rape, and intoxication. There is nothing we can learn from people like Madison. We've grown so much since then.

While you're at it, bend a knee to Idi Amin Jr., and thank him for his grand benevolence.

jpotts wrote:



WTF you got against Intoxication. That's just Un-American ya commie!! [ram27bat]
DrafterX
12 years ago
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