stogiemonger
12 years ago

2 and 3, deflections speak volumes. if you believe both sides capable then comment with equal force when each side does it. No comparisons to something Dems have done are needed to decry this particular act of dangerous stupidity. Benghazi has nothing to do with the OP, and we have a Benghazi thead or two. The Op is not implying only one side is evil, and readers infer. You are correct, however, the inference should not be that only one is bad. I agree.

Lives could have and may have been lost if emergency vehicles were caught in this jam. This isn't a political stunt, this is horrendous judgement based on vindictiveness. It matters not who did it as philosophy, but it matters who did it as far as their qualification to lead or hold high office goes. It is not the Party that is guilty. You guys were quick to circle the wagons.

So let's hear you skewer the home team when they are guilty. Everyone talks about open mindedness and that others drink koolaid. Show your sense of fair play. Perhaps that's how logjams are opened.


EDIT:

I am not completely correct about the OP. I glossed over the Maddow portion because I am much more interested in the actual story than flashpoints.

Rick is a master at setting fires here, but I find him funny, others...not so much.

EDIT:
I am not completely correct about the OP. I glossed over the part about Maddow as I am more interested in the actual story.

Rick is a master at whipping up a frenzy, I find him funny. most others do not

frankj1 wrote:



I am convinced that Maddow's investigating/ reporting of the traffic jam had everything to do with Hillary, and was intended to deflect from Benghazi.

I am convinced that the 91 yr old woman whom had cardiac arrest would have died, despite the traffic jam.

I'm convinced the O.P. used his comments to suggest that Cristie was responsible for her death, as kindling.



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RICKAMAVEN
12 years ago

stogiemonger

i just stepped on wet dog crap at the foot of the bed and that always pizes

me off that i could not house break the last two dogs i got and that causes muscelles

to tighten giving me angina (not to mention my auto dictionary stopped working a week

ago and i can't spell worth a damn (i was a math major my first year in collge plus the

nerves in my fingers just tingle but don't follow the instructions my brain give them because

the diabetes f's up nerves,so i sat down,took 2 nitros after i washed my feet in the shower with

the hose attachment i built to wash my feet only, for this kind of occurance, and decided to see

if i got anything on a hook after i chummed the board, and i noticed your responses.

nitro works best when you sit down and relaxe.

now that my heart has stopped sending pain signals to my brain, people think and say

are you having chest pain, when your heart is what hurts because it is cavitating because

of lack of blood. you don't get chest pains, there's nothing in your chest to cause pain.


i like your last three sentences that start "i am convinced," but i'll have to read some more

of your posts tomorrow, it's after 4 AM and i am way past tired, so i'm off to take a sinequan

and get some sleep.
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RICKAMAVEN
12 years ago

stogiemonger

i just stepped on wet dog crap at the foot of the bed and that always pizes

me off that i could not house break the last two dogs i got and that causes muscelles

to tighten giving me angina (not to mention my auto dictionary stopped working a week

ago and i can't spell worth a damn (i was a math major my first year in collge plus the

nerves in my fingers just tingle but don't follow the instructions my brain gives them because

the diabetes f's up nerves,so i sat down,took 2 nitros after i washed my feet in he shower with

the hose attachment i built to wash my feet only, for this kind of occurance, and decided to see

if i got anything on a hook after i chummed the board, and i noiced your responses.

nitro works best when you sit down and relaxe.

now that my heart has stopped sending pain signals to my brain, people think and say

are you having chest pain, when your heart is what hurts because it is cavitating because

of lack of blood. you don't get chest pains, there's nothing in your chest to cause pain.


i like your last three sentences that start "i am convinced," but i'll have to read some more

of your posts tomorrow, it's after 4 AM and i am way pasttired, so i'm off to take a sinequan

and get some sleep.
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stogiemonger
12 years ago
Well O.K. then, that settles it. LOL!
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frankj1
12 years ago

I am convinced that Maddow's investigating/ reporting of the traffic jam had everything to do with Hillary, and was intended to deflect from Benghazi.

I am convinced that the 91 yr old woman whom had cardiac arrest would have died, despite the traffic jam.

I'm convinced the O.P. used his comments to suggest that Cristie was responsible for her death, as kindling.



stogiemonger wrote:


your convictions are OK with me on all 3, I just feel the real story is and should be the traffic jam and what surrounds it, not the reporter.

Do you feel that investigative reporters and political pundits are capable of being unbiased? Of course not. Her slant will never surprise you, her reasons for digging will never surprise you, but what about the story? Don't we need people who dig out filth and corruption even if our home team gets exposed?

I misspoke above. I am not OK with saying a 91 year old woman would have died anyway...you can't mean that an old life is not so valuable. You can't mean it's ok for people in power (Christie or not, his staff or not) to pull crap like this...I choose to believe you are taking a cavalier attitude here but don't really believe her life is not an issue at all. You are a good person and you value life. Benghazi doesn't make any of this right or wrong.

I am still wondering where your "outrage" is that this really happened regardless of how or why we finally found out. You're killing the messenger because you hate her, but don't miss the message. This incident is disgraceful.

And the 91 year old could have been someone you do value.
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RICKAMAVEN
12 years ago
frankj1

home team? like dallas is america's team.

only the brooklyn dodgers were and still are america's team where i come from,

coney island,

where the wind comes blowing sand down the beach

and if you had a dime you got a nathan's or

sometimes a chow mein sandwhich on a hamburger bun
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stogiemonger
12 years ago
I very much value everyone's life.

The fact is that her own family has now come out and stated that they don't believe the traffic jam was a factor in her death. She had a heart attack at the age of 91.

I cannot and do not make any excuses for the buffoons who orchestrated this outrageous abuse of power against, not only the local mayor, who was being bullied for his apparent lack of political support for Cristy, but for the abuse of the citizenry, and their right to freedom of movement being infringed upon by a tyrannical state government.

I also understand that there is presently no evidence that the Governor knew anything about this, and has fired his staff members that were responsible. I think criminal charges should be pursued against them, if applicable.

I don't even care for Gov. Christy, myself. I have no reason to try to protect him. I'm just trying to "keep it real".
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stogiemonger
12 years ago
P.S.

Fair enough. It is true that I dislike the Maddow lady.
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frankj1
12 years ago

P.S.

Fair enough. It is true that I dislike the Maddow lady.

stogiemonger wrote:


It's all good.
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frankj1
12 years ago

frankj1

home team? like dallas is america's team.

only the brooklyn dodgers were and still are america's team where i come from,

coney island,

where the wind comes blowing sand down the beach

and if you had a dime you got a nathan's or

sometimes a chow mein sandwhich on a hamburger bun

RICKAMAVEN wrote:


I came around at the end of chow mein sandwiches and was just a tyke when the Dodgers left and broke your heart. I remember how the movie theater smelled from those sandwiches kids brought in for Saturday matinees.
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snowwolf777
12 years ago
1. Outside of the confines of NJ, Christie is a moderate Democrat at best.
2. I really, really hope any chance of him gumming up the works in the next presidential election is long gone. He can take Jeb Bush with him, too.
3. I liked how he handled the union deals, but other than that, see comment 1.
4. Any modicum of "like" I may have had for the guy disappeared when I watched him skipping arm-in-arm down the boardwalk with the Marxist-in-Chief.

I am being told this is serious business, because some 91 year old woman had a heart attack and checked out. I listened to a talking head last night breathlessly opining that Christie could be brought up on murder charges. Now no one at MSNBC gave a sh*t about the people who died at Benghaz,i or because of the Fast and Furious gun scheme cooked up by our president's minions. It was all "nothing to see here."

In the end, I understand that the focus on this is a great distraction from the real issues. It provides hours of endless weenie whacking fantasy material for the Libs, and some ratings for basement dwelling "news" stations. So carry on. 🐴
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jpotts
12 years ago
The problem with Maddow is that she will crucify Republican crooks, and not liberal crooks. Mainly because if she did, there would be a line of crosses from DC that would make the Romans blanch. And Rick here is dumb enough to think she deserves a cookie for being correct once every five years. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

But Maddow will never turn on her masters. Because if she did go after one of them it would be her hanging from a tree, and she knows this.

Rick et al are too easily impressed by ankle-biters.
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snowwolf777
12 years ago
And to further kill the boy-crush fantasy of all the Madcow fans out there, the North Bergen Record newspaper broke the story. Electronic media, as they do so often, lapped up the table scraps. Just because you heard if first on MSNBC doesn't mean they were first.

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