jetblasted
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:01:24 AM
I'm really confused about the death of Windows XP ... Does this mean the death of my computer, too?

I got an update notice a few days ago saying Windows no longer supports XP.

Does this mean they gave me just a few days to arrange payment for a new computer?

Hell, I'm going turkey hunting & bass fishing next week . . .

teedubbya
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:03:54 AM
No. You are fine. Ping thunder gerbil. He answered this for bloody a few weeks ago.
Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:51:14 AM
Don't worry about it, Jet.

WinXP has been EOS (end of sales) for a long time already, now at EOL (end of life) it simply means that Microsoft won't be issuing patches and updates, nor will they provide technical support or sell new copies. Existing machines will continue to work just as they did before. As long as you haven't lost your license keys, you can even reinstall and download all the patches and updates that were released over it's lifespan as they are not being taken down.

Implications to you in the capacity your home machine is used is probably minimal, if any at all. So if it works for you, there's no reason to upgrade solely based on the EOL announcement.

While Microsoft has dropped support for the machines and is raising the virus/attack/malware panic flags, the reality is that most of those things are being taken care of by your 3rd party firewall, anti-virus and anti-malware programs, which are still being updated as they use the same databases as the versions of those programs that run on the newest OSes. Programs like Avast, AVG, Norton, Malware Bytes, etc. are still going to protect your system

Home and business computers that are on protected networks really aren't at any more risk than they were before. I have seen machines that have had their updates turned off for years and they are running just fine.

Machines that sit exposed on the internet might be in for a bumpy ride though.

cacman
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 1:36:39 AM
It may also mean that other software companies won't be issuing patches, and their newer versions/updates will not be compatible. You will need to upgrade if you decide to purchase any newer software releases.
reckless
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:55:13 AM
Shoot I still know ppl running win 98 so I think youre fine LOLOLOL
05busa
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 9:24:51 AM
What da
z6joker9
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:49:24 AM
If you're not going to upgrade, AT LEAST stop using IE6 please.

I spent yesterday getting an office upgraded/protected. They are still running legacy software so I had to keep the server on a hardened XP machine, though I did upgrade all of the clients to W7.

There is a lot to like about Win 7/8 or even OSX and Linux. Even though your XP machine won't suddenly stop working, this is definitely the death knell. As cacman said, companies now have an excuse to simply stop supporting it.

TG- in my experience, the average user still on XP isn't paying much attention to their antivirus situation either.

bloody spaniard
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 10:58:03 AM
^Most of us abandoned Explorer long ago for Mozilla.

Do you guys recommend installing Norton (it's free w/Comcast) if we have XP's MS Security Essentials on one of our boxes?

Or leave as is without updates until we replace all 5 pc's the next year? The others already have Norton. Also not sure which operating system to adopt. Is 8.1 the best option?

Thanks.

Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:02:27 AM
In my experience, the average users on all versions of windows machines aren't paying attention to their antivirus situation.
Thunder.Gerbil
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:10:15 AM
Norton is bloatware, but if you like it and are comfortable using and supporting it go for it. Something to be said for having the same software across all you machines. If you are looking to ditch Norton Avast or avg are better bets. Kapersky is also good.

8, 8.1 are fine. The interface is a little different but doesn't take that long to get used to. Not like you have much of a choice in OSes anyway.

reckless
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:21:45 AM

^Most of us abandoned Explorer long ago for Mozilla.

Do you guys recommend installing Norton (it's free w/Comcast) if we have XP's MS Security Essentials on one of our boxes?

Or leave as is without updates until we replace all 5 pc's the next year? The others already have Norton. Also not sure which operating system to adopt. Is 8.1 the best option?

Thanks.

bloody spaniard wrote:

8.1 is alot to get used to and IMO more of a tablet os, Win7 is my OS of choice. Now you can make win8 look like win7 but ehh

z6joker9
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:34:27 AM

In my experience, the average users on all versions of windows machines aren't paying attention to their antivirus situation.

Thunder.Gerbil wrote:

I agree, but I meant that at least more modern OSes have more built in protection and will continue to be patched.

BS, antivirus opinions are going to be all over the map, but I have had good luck with webroot (previously known as prevx), especially their business product that allows remote management. It has saved me a ton of time supporting computer users. Lightweight and does not download definitions.

bloody spaniard
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 11:44:45 AM
Yeah, my son has webroot & Kazpersky on his gamer laptop.

Sooooo, options are Win 8.0 (preferably) & to stay "as is" for the next year or so (with antirvirus MS Security) or weigh "bloated" free Norton vs the two aforementioned above?

When are they going to invent a less cumbersome operating system- something where patches & gizmos are unnecessary?

Sometimes I think that computers (software) are made complicated by design. We don't fully comprehend what we've invented.

cacman
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:12:30 PM

When are they going to invent a less cumbersome operating system- something where patches & gizmos are unnecessary?

Sometimes I think that computers (software) are made complicated by design. We don't fully comprehend what we've invented.

bloody spaniard wrote:

LMAO!!! The cries of a future Mac owner!

Buckwheat
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:20:44 PM
One of the many ironies of XP is that it is my understanding that a lot of the ATM's around the country still use a version of XP for their OS. I think all of this who-ha over the EOL for Win. XP is similar to the Y2K hysteria... A NON EVENT!!
z6joker9
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:32:34 PM

One of the many ironies of XP is that it is my understanding that a lot of the ATM's around the country still use a version of XP for their OS. I think all of this who-ha over the EOL for Win. XP is similar to the Y2K hysteria... A NON EVENT!!

Buckwheat wrote:

ATM's don't have users actively installing toolbars and games with PUPs and they sit behind several layers of protection. You can't catch anything if you wear a condom all the time and also never stick it in anything.

LMAO!!! The cries of a future Mac owner!

cacman wrote:

preach!

frozenphoenix1
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 12:39:57 PM

ATM's don't have users actively installing toolbars and games with PUPs and they sit behind several layers of protection. You can't catch anything if you wear a condom all the time and also never stick it in anything.

z6joker9 wrote:

This is a big point of contention in the PCI compliance world, as one of the requirements is a supported version of software. This means that the OS need to have active patching and security notifications for any issues found on a regular basis. Most of the Banks could pay millions to extend the support of XP to stay in compliance. Most major retail POS systems are also run off of a subversion of XP as well, and this would mean that more breaches could be easier if there are exploits identified.

Just going to be a choice for a lot of companies to either spend the money to update their software, or pay for the support.

bloody spaniard
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:12:55 PM

LMAO!!! The cries of a future Mac owner!

cacman wrote:

LOL- Do you know my very first computer was a Mac then Mac+... wife (huh- I thought engineers preferred Macs?) and society browbeat me into the pc world and I've hated life ever since. The stories I could tell about compatibility issues especially peripherals such as a Macs laser printer & pc's.#-o

Son is pestering for a Mac now. How easy (and expensive) would it be to transition a small network from pc to Macs?

Perhaps you shouldn't tell me.

frozenphoenix1
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:22:51 PM
What do you all have going on your small network of PCs now?

I have a mixed network of PCs and a couple older Macs, with shares off of windows servers and have a couple linux servers, with Virtual network devices for my lab.

jetblasted
Wednesday, April 9, 2014 3:30:08 PM
I don't know much about any of this. I got an update from MS that said XP is no longer supported, and to upgrade to W7 or W8.1. I tried to, and the response was it wasn't available.

My question, and it's naive, is the upgrade to W7 or 8 free? Is the switch to the google chrome OS free ?

My computer is running really slow,and even videos off FB are really jumpy.

I'm not happy about any of this . . .