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DrafterX
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12 years ago

#101

I heard the First lady was getting one this year for saving the fat kids.... 😟

Gene363
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12 years ago

#102

I heard the First lady was getting one this year for saving the fat kids.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

Yes, they will be serving fra gras and tater tots at the awards dinner.

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DrMaddVibe
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12 years ago

#103

You say that like they won't be underwater...

victor809 wrote:

Damn subprime mortgages!!!

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#104

the underwater theory again..??? 🤦

throw an ice cube in a glass of water and watch it melt Victor... is your glass overflowing now..??? 😕

victor809
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12 years ago

#105

Henry Fonda???? Really??? You can't do better than mistakenly giving credit to a Hollywood actor?

The Grapes of Wrath is an American realist novel written by John Steinbeck and published in 1939. The book won the National Book Award and Pulitzer Prize for fiction, and it was cited prominently when Steinbeck won the Nobel Prize in 1962.

cacman wrote:

Um, I believe he is quoting the movie, Grapes of Wrath, as acted by actor Henry Fonda. Looks like the quote itself is very similar between the book and the movie, but the book doesn't appear to have the "if casey knowed why" phrase. Not sure why you would say he's mistaken...

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#106

Axl wrote that book man.... 🤐

victor809
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12 years ago

#107

the underwater theory again..??? 🤦

throw an ice cube in a glass of water and watch it melt Victor... is your glass overflowing now..??? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

Drafter. You realize that's just wrong, right? While the whole "global warming" vs "global cooling" vs "extreme climate change" thing is fun to poke at, IF there were significant enough temp increase, you would see a rise in water levels. "But Victor! the guy on the interwebs asked me about ice cubes and water glasses and it coincides with my current beliefs so I like him!"

Two problems with your "ice cube in a glass of water" theory.
1 - A lot of our ice ISN'T in the ocean. It's on land, next to the ocean (Antarctica). It melts and runs in...that adds mass. that's like taking an ice cube, melting it, and pouring the water into your glass. Will the water level rise?

2 - Saltwater vs Freshwater. When water freezes it excludes the salts in its crystalline structure. So what you have is fresh water ice, floating in saltwater. However, saltwater is MORE DENSE than fresh water (this is why you float better in saltwater)... and ICE floats better in saltwater. In fact, this causes it to displace less water than in fresh water. So when it melts, and the fresh water mixes with the saltwater, it increases the volume.

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#108

never gonna happen anyway... 🤐

victor809
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12 years ago

#109

never gonna happen anyway... 🤐

DrafterX wrote:

But you concede that if the planet's temperature did in fact rise enough to melt the water currently in ice form, we will see rising sea levels?

To say that it is "never gonna happen" is an awfully bold statement. In fact it's one of those statements which is most likely to eventually be proven wrong. Not because of any special climate science or anything... but simply because given enough time (and "never" spans all of time), just about all circumstances will rear their ugly head.

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#110

But you concede that if the planet's temperature did in fact rise enough to melt the water currently in ice form, we will see rising sea levels?

victor809 wrote:

[-( 🤐

victor809
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12 years ago

#111

[-( 🤐

DrafterX wrote:

Is that a yes or a no?

Let me rephrase that...
Is that a "yes victor, I agree with the most basic concepts of physical chemistry" or a "no victor, I don't believe in the most basic concepts of physical chemistry"?

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#112

that's a no, never gonna happen.... 🤐 🤐

victor809
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12 years ago

#113

that's a no, never gonna happen.... 🤐 🤐

DrafterX wrote:

That wasn't my question.
I asked (and you even quoted it):

"But you concede that if the planet's temperature did in fact rise enough to melt the water currently in ice form, we will see rising sea levels?"

When you say "no, never gonna happen" are you referring to the temperature shift or the basic chemistry which would cause the water levels to rise?

DrafterX
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12 years ago

#114

No to a temperature shift that would melt the ice caps.... 😟

:-k
I wonder where God got all the water when he flooded da earth.... 🤔

victor809
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12 years ago

#115

No to a temperature shift that would melt the ice caps.... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

But that wasn't the question. I stated:
"But you concede that if the planet's temperature did in fact rise enough to melt the water currently in ice form, we will see rising sea levels?"

So, you are conceding that IF the temperature rose enough in the poles to melt the ice caps, we would see rising sea levels?