So what?

Barry Sanders. Best running back in the game when he played... never won a title. He was better than Emmitt Smith, but he didn't have nearly as much surrounding support. Emmitt did what he did thanks to Herschel Walker and a STUPID Vikings GM.

Dallas was able to get solid offensive and defensive lineman, which is what really wins NFL games. Trench players make the skill players look great. If Barry had Emmitt's blockers he'd have broken Walter's records 4 years sooner than Emmitt.

If Mike was playing, they'd have likely won those 2 years, too. 8 in a row... only trailing the Celtics and Bill Russell.

Go Green!!

They didn't. Someone had to. The Rockets did....

Shoulda. Coulda. Woulda.

Stay on topic we talkin basketball here.[-x

So is Robert Horry the greatest NBA player in the Modern era? Maybe Dennis Rodman should be considered the 5th best because he ranks only behind Horry, Jabbar, Jordan, Pippen, and is tied with Magic, Michael Cooper, Ron Harper, Derek Fisher,Steve Kerr and Kobe for the most titles won.

Who gives a crap about soccer?

+1 They might just have motivated the Heat to another championship.

Dammit, Erik. Stop making sense.

That was a great movie BTW. My point is a lot of these arguments are ridiculous. They are a bunch of great players on my list but there are a couple of dogs too. A lot of winning a title is just dumb luck and the basketball gods shining on you. Hell if Pippen did not have his migraine in game 7 of the '90 Eastern conference finals versus the Piston "Bad Boys" he and MJ might have 7 or even 9 if MJ didn't take that time off for his baseball fiasco. As my brother Kipp said...Shoulda... Coulda... Woulda.

Bullcrap. He averaged 22 points 7 rebounds 7assists in 43 minutes per game and shot somewhere around 30 %. He shot terribly yes but look who he played with...Drew Gooden, Daniel Gibson, Sasha Pavlovic, Zydrunaus Ilgauskus, Anderson Varajao, Damon Jones, Donyell Marshall, Eric Snow and Larry Hughes... Stiffs each and every one.

He played against Timmy, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Big Shot Bob Horry, Bruce Bowen, Fabricio Oberto, Francisco Elson, Michael Finley, Brent Barry and Jacque Vaughn. 3 HOFers, One of the best defenders ever, The most (Some would say) clutch shooter ever, a two time Western Conference AllStar, A Slam Dunk champion, and a bunch of capable system players who knew their roles.

And really do we need to go here... Pops.... Who is the 2nd best coach behind Jackson in the last 30 years in the NBA versus some poor shmuck who has been fired at every NBA head coaching job he has had. My money would have been on the Spurs. All of my money if I had been a betting man.

Also he was all of 22 at the time. Name one player who had even come close to winning a championship playing such a role at that age.

Mike never even sniffed the finals until he got his help. James got there with scrubs and got whooped by a far better team.

And as far as how he left Cleveland... yeah, it was a little bush league, but lest we all forget it was for money - and ALL that money went to CHARITY. It was with good intentions, but came off smug.

+1

If you didn't know he was leaving Cleveland, you were blind to reality.

By the way why is there this thirst to compare someone to MJ? Is it not ok to be great in your own time or do you now have to be great and better then a legend?