But I'll take an Unholy Cocktail for the price.

Rocky Patel Royale

Aging Room Quattro F55

Oliva Serie V Melanio

Hoyo de Monterrey

INCH Natural

Kristoff Sumatra

La Gloria Cubana Serie R

just to name a few.

Put some good age on it and you might just change your mind. Properly aged they are tough to beat.

Sumatra is a varietal, maduro is a color shade. There is no direct comparison. Any varietal of tobacco can be made "maduro".

yes, you are correct. CAO AMAZON BASIN is not have a maduro wrapper. It's a Ecuadorian Sumatra ligero wrapper. Diesel is a Pa Broadleaf wrapper that is maduro. Not similar in any way really. I have to buy a fiver for $33 at C.I. and sample.

yes, you are correct. CAO AMAZON BASIN is not have a maduro wrapper. It's a Ecuadorian Sumatra ligero wrapper. Diesel is a Pa Broadleaf wrapper that is maduro. Not similar in any way really. I have to buy a fiver for $33 at C.I. and sample.

Just found that the new CAO releases need considerably more time resting, especially compared to the OR sticks released when they were still family owned in Nashville.

Maduro is a term that is used, or not used as the case may be, pretty loosely by NC manufacturers. It's origins are a color/shade on the leaf grading chart but can also be used to refer to a leaf with some extra fermentation time.

I haven't seen the CAO Amazon Basin in person, so I can't say what the color matches up to, but from the photos, it actually does look to be about the same shade as "maduro" on the color chart. Meanwhile, every Diesel cigar I've ever seen would fall more around "oscuro" than it would maduro.

I really wouldn't put too much stock in the maduro / not maduro descriptors.

You are correct in that the Ecuadorian (country of origin) Sumatra (varietal strain) Ligero (where it's located on the plant - in this case, upper leaves) isn't similar in flavor to the PA (origin) Broadleaf (varietal) maduro (doesn't mean jack ****). It's like comparing apricots and plums - both are stone fruits, they have some similar characteristics and they can cross pollinate.

Just wondering if the Nicarao Havana Sungrown makes your Top 25?