The cost for companies to reduce their CO2 emissions will just be passed on to their product consumers.

When you find it hard to find a selfish reason for pushing climate change, you kinda just remove yourself from the entire conversation as being unqualified to participate.


Lemme give you an example:

Company A has a lot of CO2 emissions.
Company B makes money by helping companies lower their CO2 emissions.
Company C makes money by helping companies pass their costs increases on to their customers.
Someone like say....Le HockeyDad works at Company B or C.

Under this scenario, Company B & C as well as someone like say...Le HockeyDad have a vested interest in lobbying the government to legislate tougher CO2 emissions because it means more work and profit. Now it seems like Company A is getting screwed but they really are neutral in the scenario because they pass the increased costs on to their consumers (with Company C's services!) and can now proclaim how much greener they are in press releases and commercials. That's at least a half-win at no cost. Half-Win/Win/Win situation.

Now I guess somebody does have to lose......the customers of Company A. They can't just abandon Company A because we are doing the same thing with all of Company A's competitors as well. Although they pay more, they at least have the satisfaction of being more green (while having less green).

HockeyDad wrote:

No let's ASSume your an Over educated know it all who believes his " over education " gives him insight into THINKING he knows what other want for themselves or their family members ( again let me take this opportunity to Thank You for NOT procreating ) but continues to dance around other intelligent people expecting PROOF of the scare tactics others are selling to line their pockets. Do YOU or our scientists in charge of keeping track of the Health of our planet really believe we can alter the course of our solar system of which we are but a SMALL player in????
Did I also tell you I have some wonderful recreational property in Death Valley for sale???

TMCTLT wrote:

TMCTLT wrote:
No let's ASSume your an Over educated know it all who believes his " over education " gives him insight into THINKING he knows what other want for themselves or their family members ( again let me take this opportunity to Thank You for NOT procreating ) but continues to dance around other intelligent people expecting PROOF of the scare tactics others are selling to line their pockets. Do YOU or our scientists in charge of keeping track of the Health of our planet really believe we can alter the course of our solar system of which we are but a SMALL player in????
Did I also tell you I have some wonderful recreational property in Death Valley for sale???


You sound like a republican.

tonygraz wrote:

Company B could have other things to do and only be hoping to pick up additional business and Company C is a company that only exists because company A isn't too swift. I don't see the big push coming from them. Since company A will just pass on costs anyway, they again show they aren't too swift by spending money to push climate change denial.

tonygraz wrote:

No let's ASSume your an Over educated know it all who believes his " over education " gives him insight into THINKING he knows what other want for themselves or their family members ( again let me take this opportunity to Thank You for NOT procreating ) but continues to dance around other intelligent people expecting PROOF of the scare tactics others are selling to line their pockets. Do YOU or our scientists in charge of keeping track of the Health of our planet really believe we can alter the course of our solar system of which we are but a SMALL player in????
Did I also tell you I have some wonderful recreational property in Death Valley for sale???

TMCTLT wrote:

You don't think this situation exists. That is a good thing.

So where is the big push coming from?

HockeyDad wrote:

Well... I would hesitate to call you "other intelligent people". why do you want proof it's us causing it? Even if it isn't us causing it (or any other thing), we have a chance to fix it. Your statement: "Do YOU or our scientists in charge of keeping track of the Health of our planet really believe we can alter the course of our solar system of which we are but a SMALL player in????" shows why you are a small person. You think small. With enough money, enough motivation, we can make big changes to anything. (small print: not all changes may ultimately benefit humanity, your results may vary).

As a hypothetical brain exercise (don't have a stroke)... let's assume that our current industrial and transportation processes have zero impact on the climate of earth. Let's also assume that we have a 95% confidence that in 50 years that climate will be completely inhospitable in the 1st world regions. 1st world agriculture will be non-functional. Would you just sit back and say "awwww shucks.... we can't do anything about that. Poor us. Guess we'll just have a mass die-off..." Geez... it's amazing your genetic material made it this far with that attitude.

victor809 wrote:

D.....so who's the Dumbass

TMCTLT wrote:

the one who lost his cool and that would be you.

tonygraz wrote:

Republicans and the rich that own them.

tonygraz wrote:

...and yet you don't think it is possible that the Democrats and the rich people that own them could be pushing the global warming/climate change concept?

HockeyDad wrote:

...and yet you don't think it is possible that the Democrats and the rich people that own them could be pushing the global warming/climate change concept?

HockeyDad wrote:

Dude......any ass hole who goes around kicking the snot out of poor homeless guys with mental deficiencies has NO right insulting others,

TMCTLT wrote:

and apparently because you go through life with thoughts of grandeur for yourself you also believe that humans CAN alter the course of our solar system......you should get into COMEDY with that BIG FUNNY BRAIN of yours.

No once AGAIN......let's ASSUME your an over confident over educated liberal F8cktard who thinks money can solve anything.....ANYTHING.

You and yours living on that coast had better concern yourself with how to keep from quietly slipping into the Pacific one night....and even if you don't smart guy.....you've chosen to live where your entire state is dependent on OTHERS SHARING water with you.....so who's the Dumbass