Gene363
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11 years ago

I understand your point Jet. The problem isn't the actual presence of the flag. The problem is the simple passing of something which is false as real. And an even more insidious problem is the "half-backing down" bs people then use when they say something like "It was just satire"... it's bs. I don't even particularly like this woman, but I see this bs coming out of those fringe sites, and idiots believe it. And then they use it as some sort of proof that such and such politician is a hypocrite.... but the entire argument is based on falsehood.

Our goal as a society should be to become smarter. To understand more about the world. To have more facts, real facts, real truth. Our goal shouldn't be to decrease the amount of knowledge our fellow man has simply because you think the falsehoods match up better with your goals or ideas of a person or group.

People who distribute this are making our whole world worse.

victor809 wrote:



ibid, see comment 43

Now you have an idea of what it is to like to be a conservative/libertarian when your ideas are attacked by the democrats or the GOP.

I have really been getting a laugh from this thread, although I feel like a member of a democratic party smear operative. They are very good at what they do, albeit evil. I also need a shower.
victor809
11 years ago

ibid, see comment 43

Now you have an idea of what it is to like to be a conservative/libertarian when your ideas are attacked by the democrats or the GOP.

I have really been getting a laugh from this thread, although I feel like a member of a democratic party smear operative. They are very good at what they do, albeit evil. I also need a shower.

Gene363 wrote:



Don't pretend this is a "democratic party smear" thing. There's a reason the running joke is "facts have a well known liberal bias".

No party owns "facts" but the sort of bs this photoshop job is an example of is that lazy, poorly crafted and easily debunked crap along the lines of a "canadian david letterman" or "one angry woman" or other bs like that.

There's an interesting theory regarding email phishing scams, and I think it may apply here.
Those "nigerian princes" or other phishing scams commonly used are intentionally poorly constructed. The idea being that if they were to make it believable at the outset more individuals would contact the scammer. But a higher percentage of those individuals would become suspicious well before turning over all their personal information. That's a waste of the scammer's time, as they have to interact with many more people for a similar success rate. Whereas if they craft the phishing email in such a manner that the only person stupid/gullible enough to believe it would ALSO be stupid/gullible enough to hand over all their personal information... or whatever they are trying to get.

My point is that I get the same scent of stupidity from these things. You look at it and immediately know there is likely something wrong with it. But for some reason there is a group of idiots who keep believing it. They keep posting it to forums or forwarding it on to their sewing circles... It's almost like these are specifically targeted to hit that moron sweet-spot.
jetblasted
11 years ago
victor, you are getting way too worked up over this.

It looks real to me, but I don't care if someone is trying to smear her, because, it's silly. Now, if they can prove she had anything to do with all the people who died around her that is "claimed" she had a hand in, then I'll pay attention. I do find it hard to believe she would support the flag, as actual supporters of hers don't seem to be the type of folks she'd hang around. Regardless, during this time the photo was taken, she was knee-deep in a lesbian love affair with Yoko Ono . . .

It's a stupid controversy. It's a stupid smear. Real or Fake. This is dumb.

I'm out.
thurson
11 years ago

Hillary won a bowling trophy?

tailgater wrote:



Make that three!
Burner02
11 years ago
It needs a bag over it's head.
cacman
11 years ago

1 - The image wasn't presented as satire. It was presented as "fact". In fact, there are still idiots who believe it is "fact".

victor809 wrote:


This is where you are wrong. When Gene originally posted the image he simply said "Two Interesting Things in This Photo." He never stated any type of 'fact'. Only on post #13 did Gene suggest "It's just as likely". That's far from presenting it as 'fact'. It was YOU that who brought outside rhetoric and BS into the conversation in post #10. You should have accepted the image and comments simply for how it was presented at the moment and with the benign comment originally offered, instead of twisting into some liberal defense for a criminal. Get off your self-righteous pedestal.

The woman should be in jail - PERIOD. Any bullsh|t defense by anyone, or anything Vic has to offer, is completely irrelevant after the fact that she should be in jail. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse or justifiable reason to defend her. Who really cares if the flag in the pic is real of fake. The facts are that her crimes against this Country are real, and she should be put on the fire and held accountable!

To follow-up Jets post - shortly after this photo was taken she was let go (fired) from the Nixon Watergate investigation for what was basically unethical actions and presumably fabricating evidence. But no charges where filed, as in many other cases against the Clintons. Just like the S&L scandal, Whitewater, illegal arms sales, Bengazi, loss of 6 BILLION dollars in the State Dept (that's a big 'B'), the Uranium deal, private Email screening (LMFAO), CGI payoffs/bribes, and I'm sure many other 'deals' we've not heard about yet. We as citizens (slaves to the 1%er's which the Clintons are one of regardless of their claims of being broke) will probably never hear the real truth. My bet is Pelosi, the big 'O', and many others made HUGE bucks from shady dealings with the Clintons thus the reason they support her. IMHO the Democratic Party stands behind Hilldog simply as 'payment' for being a good subordinate during her husband's impeachment. As my wife suggested back then and today, Hillary said 'you owe me'. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." As a result she will say or do anything for power & greed. The sooner we can rid the Clintons (big 'O', Pelosi, and many others in their 'corner') and their extreme socialist liberal agenda from our guberment the sooner we can get back to a true Democratic process. The Clintons are not the new Camelot to 'fill positions" left open by the Kennedys.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can DO for your country."
DrafterX
11 years ago
Victor must really love Hillary... 😟
teedubbya
11 years ago
cacman's definition of fact is different than most.
DrafterX
11 years ago
Snopes's too.... 😟
TMCTLT
11 years ago

I understand your point Jet. The problem isn't the actual presence of the flag. The problem is the simple passing of something which is false as real. And an even more insidious problem is the "half-backing down" bs people then use when they say something like "It was just satire"... it's bs. I don't even particularly like this woman, but I see this bs coming out of those fringe sites, and idiots believe it. And then they use it as some sort of proof that such and such politician is a hypocrite.... but the entire argument is based on falsehood.

Our goal as a society should be to become smarter. To understand more about the world. To have more facts, real facts, real truth. Our goal shouldn't be to decrease the amount of knowledge our fellow man has simply because you think the falsehoods match up better with your goals or ideas of a person or group.

People who distribute this are making our whole world worse.

victor809 wrote:





You mean like the two minute video she and others were selling as the SOLE REASON that the American consolate was attacked in Benghazi???? Talk about based on TOTAL FALSEHOOD.....#-o
Our nation does not need proof of her and Bills behaving like hypocrites....their actions speak MUCH louder than words ever could.
mikey1597
11 years ago

This is where you are wrong. When Gene originally posted the image he simply said "Two Interesting Things in This Photo." He never stated any type of 'fact'. Only on post #13 did Gene suggest "It's just as likely". That's far from presenting it as 'fact'. It was YOU that who brought outside rhetoric and BS into the conversation in post #10. You should have accepted the image and comments simply for how it was presented at the moment and with the benign comment originally offered, instead of twisting into some liberal defense for a criminal. Get off your self-righteous pedestal.

The woman should be in jail - PERIOD. Any bullsh|t defense by anyone, or anything Vic has to offer, is completely irrelevant after the fact that she should be in jail. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse or justifiable reason to defend her. Who really cares if the flag in the pic is real of fake. The facts are that her crimes against this Country are real, and she should be put on the fire and held accountable!

To follow-up Jets post - shortly after this photo was taken she was let go (fired) from the Nixon Watergate investigation for what was basically unethical actions and presumably fabricating evidence. But no charges where filed, as in many other cases against the Clintons. Just like the S&L scandal, Whitewater, illegal arms sales, Bengazi, loss of 6 BILLION dollars in the State Dept (that's a big 'B'), the Uranium deal, private Email screening (LMFAO), CGI payoffs/bribes, and I'm sure many other 'deals' we've not heard about yet. We as citizens (slaves to the 1%er's which the Clintons are one of regardless of their claims of being broke) will probably never hear the real truth. My bet is Pelosi, the big 'O', and many others made HUGE bucks from shady dealings with the Clintons thus the reason they support her. IMHO the Democratic Party stands behind Hilldog simply as 'payment' for being a good subordinate during her husband's impeachment. As my wife suggested back then and today, Hillary said 'you owe me'. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." As a result she will say or do anything for power & greed. The sooner we can rid the Clintons (big 'O', Pelosi, and many others in their 'corner') and their extreme socialist liberal agenda from our guberment the sooner we can get back to a true Democratic process. The Clintons are not the new Camelot to 'fill positions" left open by the Kennedys.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can DO for your country."

cacman wrote:



=d> =d> =d> =d> =d>
Gene363
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11 years ago

This is where you are wrong. When Gene originally posted the image he simply said "Two Interesting Things in This Photo." He never stated any type of 'fact'. Only on post #13 did Gene suggest "It's just as likely". That's far from presenting it as 'fact'. It was YOU that who brought outside rhetoric and BS into the conversation in post #10. You should have accepted the image and comments simply for how it was presented at the moment and with the benign comment originally offered, instead of twisting into some liberal defense for a criminal. Get off your self-righteous pedestal.

The woman should be in jail - PERIOD. Any bullsh|t defense by anyone, or anything Vic has to offer, is completely irrelevant after the fact that she should be in jail. There is ABSOLUTELY no excuse or justifiable reason to defend her. Who really cares if the flag in the pic is real of fake. The facts are that her crimes against this Country are real, and she should be put on the fire and held accountable!

To follow-up Jets post - shortly after this photo was taken she was let go (fired) from the Nixon Watergate investigation for what was basically unethical actions and presumably fabricating evidence. But no charges where filed, as in many other cases against the Clintons. Just like the S&L scandal, Whitewater, illegal arms sales, Bengazi, loss of 6 BILLION dollars in the State Dept (that's a big 'B'), the Uranium deal, private Email screening (LMFAO), CGI payoffs/bribes, and I'm sure many other 'deals' we've not heard about yet. We as citizens (slaves to the 1%er's which the Clintons are one of regardless of their claims of being broke) will probably never hear the real truth. My bet is Pelosi, the big 'O', and many others made HUGE bucks from shady dealings with the Clintons thus the reason they support her. IMHO the Democratic Party stands behind Hilldog simply as 'payment' for being a good subordinate during her husband's impeachment. As my wife suggested back then and today, Hillary said 'you owe me'. "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." As a result she will say or do anything for power & greed. The sooner we can rid the Clintons (big 'O', Pelosi, and many others in their 'corner') and their extreme socialist liberal agenda from our guberment the sooner we can get back to a true Democratic process. The Clintons are not the new Camelot to 'fill positions" left open by the Kennedys.

"Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what YOU can DO for your country."

cacman wrote:



👍

As P.J. O'Rourke one said about the Clintons:

Simps and ninnies, lava lamp liberals and condo pinks.

Spoiled twerps, racket-jawed purveyors of monkey doodle and baked wind.

They are piddlers upon merit, beggars at the door of accomplishment, thieves of livelihood, envy-coddling tax lice applauding themselves for giving away other people's money.

They are the lap dogs of the poli-sci class, returning to the vomit of liberalism.

They are little pig herders, tending that sow that eats her young - the Welfare State.

They are muck dwelling bottom feeders, growing fat on the worries and disappointments of the electorate.

They are the ditch carp of democracy.

jetblasted
11 years ago
victor809
11 years ago

You mean like the two minute video she and others were selling as the SOLE REASON that the American consolate was attacked in Benghazi???? Talk about based on TOTAL FALSEHOOD.....#-o
Our nation does not need proof of her and Bills behaving like hypocrites....their actions speak MUCH louder than words ever could.

TMCTLT wrote:


.... this is what's wrong with you, and everyone else who seems to think like you.

I don't care if she personally murdered babies and stuck her ginormous cl$t in their eyes, then erased all the tape... That doesn't change the fact that the photo is a lie. You don't pile more lies on top.

If you can prove anything about benghazi, then go do it. Personally bring her up on charges. Don't justify being fooled by a poorly concocted photoshop job by saying you're sure she did some bad stuff somewhere else.

Of course, one could argue if you're so willing to blindly believe anything bad about her simply because you're sure in your head that she is bad... then your entire belief system is in question.
DrafterX
11 years ago
I heard she personally murdered babies and stuck her ginormous cl$t in their eyes, then erased all the tape... 😟
teedubbya
11 years ago

I heard she personally murdered babies and stuck her ginormous cl$t in their eyes, then erased all the tape... 😟

DrafterX wrote:




I heard that too. I also heard the credibility of this picture is equal to that of the bengay thingie.
DrafterX
11 years ago
I dunno man... her being gay is pretty well documented and stuff... 😟
Gene363
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11 years ago

Victor must really love Hillary... 😟

DrafterX wrote:



Perhaps it's her "her ginormous cl$t"
DrafterX
11 years ago
he does talk about it alot.... 🤔
cacman
11 years ago

I heard that too. I also heard the credibility of this picture is equal to that of the bengay thingie.

teedubbya wrote:


4 people didn't die because of the photo.
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