As someone who dealt with Medicaid eligibility, and particularly what can and cant be asked/considered during enrollment, and what can and can't be paid for (eligibility or benefit) with federal funds for many years combined with years of working with EMTALA compliance and enforcement I've simply stopped responding to the experts in here and elsewhere clammering about all the free health care illegals get. Beleive what you want, but reality is far different than the rhetoric. (not directed at speyside, because I realize he isn't saying anyone gets anything).

Now back to your regularly scheduled well thought out Obama is a dictator conversation.....

teedubbya wrote:

Say what you want, my wife has also worked in the healthcare industry for over twenty five years @ a hospital where this stuff DOES take place. It's not rhetoric...

TMCTLT wrote:

What did you do with all that money your mommy gave you for anger management classes ?

tonygraz wrote:

We've talked about this before and you chose not to understand my role..... you know the one actually defining and enforcing these things rathr than treating patients. (not to mention my many years in hospitals and docs offices)

You put too much weight on anecdotal second hand gossip.

teedubbya wrote:

Dentists are dictators.

teedubbya wrote:

Call it second hand if you like,

TMCTLT wrote:

you assume that all states deal with this in the same manner.

TMCTLT wrote:

Why would you automatically discount what someone who IS still in the field of healthcare is saying about what they know is happening?

TMCTLT wrote:

I'm not discounting that the healthcare industry forces these healthcare facilities to treat these Illegals, what I question is WHY no one fights it on behalf of those who pay more for healthcare to offset these freebies for Illegals. Is it really that much more cost efficient to do this versus fight it in court?

TMCTLT wrote:

By definition .... I did




To recieve federal funds, in this particular issue they do, and the requirements are VERY specific (unlike most things medicaid).... I approved and disapproved such things in several states. I worked extensively with Medicaid State Plan Ammendments. I'm not assuming much here, although you are the expert through marriage.

And THIS right here is the real problem....the Feds acting as the healthcare PIMP and it's now leached into education etc. etc. etc.


I still work with it too and I'm not discounting what they say.... I'm not discussing it with someone still in the field so they are not saying anything to me.... if they were we could discuss it intelligently rather than moronic second had garbage. I'm discussing it with someone who has never been in the field... but that said..l. I work specificly with the subject at hand not tangentally or anecdotally.... and yet have the same or similar experience in the field not working with the subject at hand specifically




Makes no sense based on fact not rhetoric. It's a bunch of gobblygoop. EMTALA is a fun law to work with.... weird definitions of emergency

teedubbya wrote:

bahahahahahahahaah omg this is funny

teedubbya wrote:

I'm glad you find humor in our far over reaching federal gov. 🍺

TMCTLT wrote: