Or work more, and pay your own way.

sd72 wrote:

Or work more, and pay your own way.

sd72 wrote:

while the "article" could be true there is absolutely no information in it. Anecdotally a person or two may have thought that?

This is a fluff piece designed to whoop up a certain group of folks. There is no there there.

teedubbya wrote:

while the "article" could be true there is absolutely no information in it. Anecdotally a person or two may have thought that?

This is a fluff piece designed to whoop up a certain group of folks. There is no there there.

teedubbya wrote:

Although you may consider it a "fluff" piece, this trend IS happening in a number of cities/States where they have raised the minimum wage. Of course in the guberment's infinite wisdon, their solution will be to raise the poverty level so that no one looses any of the free sh|t they are receiving, instead of putting more Americans to work. As the guberment puts it, we need the illegal immigrants to do the jobs Americans don't want to do.

Do you know how to say "Yes, I would like fries with that." in Spanish?

cacman wrote:

actually, I blame those in the private sector for hiring the illegals who are willing to take less than even an unskilled American is willing to take.

Another big trend is hiring temps. It's cheaper to pay the (private) agency about $23/hour than to hire an unemployed American looking for full time work at $15/hr...

frankj1 wrote:

Seattle Employees Ask for Reduced Hours So That Jacked-Up Minimum Wage Won’t Cost Them Subsidized Housing

By jacking up minimum wage, Seattle has provided a valuable lesson in liberal economics. The plan has now backfired.

Nora Gibson, who is the executive director of Full Life Care, told KIRO 7 she saw a sudden reaction from workers when Seattle’s phased minimum-wage ordinance took effect in April, bringing minimum wage to $11 an hour.
She said anecdotally, some people feared they would lose their subsidized housing so they have asked that their work hours be reduced to remain eligible for all government subsidies.

It doesn’t stop at $11/hour. The law puts it up to $15 starting January 1, 2017, they will have to reduce their work hours even more to remain eligible for handouts. Good thing the minimum wage wasn’t raised even higher, most would not work at all, they prefer to be spoon fed and remain on the government plantation.

Remember free market capitalism? Under that system, the harder and smarter you worked, the higher your standard of living. But that was found to result in income inequality, so now we have a system where wealth is bestowed by bureaucrats, and working harder doesn’t always make sense.

(P.S. This was on Fox News. Food stamps, child care credits, medical care and a few other benefits are also affected. The potential loss of income exceeds the amount of the pay increase.)

jespear wrote:

Basically, guys I just wanted to vent a bit.
(Post #9 pretty much sums it up.)

jespear wrote:

More than our Federal Government for allowing them to continue to pour in?
Again, I actually agree with you on this as it was a choice I have been faced many times and DECLINED the cheap labor because I can't support that kind of thinking to better my bottom line while knowing full well there ARE Americans out there looking for work.

And you are correct in your 2nd statement also but it's more than that... employers are now sidestepping the cost of healthcare that is being forced on them by the ACA. I have worked for a company called Tradesman Int. they're a Non union organization that contractors can call and get " temp. help " be it carpenter (comm. or res. ) a painter / electrician etc and they charge handsomely ($45) per man hr. for a carpenter and pay out maybe $19-$22 maybe $25 an hour. It's all about giving big business an opportunity to sidestep full time employees and paying them what they're worth.

TMCTLT wrote: