"Flaunting" will likely stop as gays are accepted with full rights and privileges afforded straights...or "breeders" as I've heard us called!

frankj1 wrote:

Which rights or privileges are they not afforded today?

tailgater wrote:

Meanwhile, you're saying that we should expect their extravagant flaunting until everyone accepts them?

The floggings will continue until moral improves?

It's a damn shame if it's true.

tailgater wrote:

not really saying that. I never call it flaunting, just referenced the word in quotes based on a previous post cuz I found it an interesting term to be used, I suppose for me the inference being that it is considered by the users especially descriptive of gays and by itself shows there is a bit more road to go for acceptance of their rights and privileges despite what the laws say.

So I do think demonstrations of unity, maybe some in-your-face rallying, and other somewhat forceful displays will keep happening as a way of pounding down the last doors of denial of what you and I never consider an issue at all when we walk out our front doors.

The remaining "floggers" will eventually be extinguished or deal with courts.

frankj1 wrote:

If they don't realize that the militant "in your face" displays will only hurt their cause and delay their long terms goals, then they are more stupider than I thought.

tailgater wrote:

you may be correct. but sometimes one must fight fire with fire.

It's not like once the courts affirmed their rights everyone fell over like dominoes and realized they were making it difficult.
Again, look at Kentucky. Noise may be required to get national attention.

frankj1 wrote:

I do not plan on an endless argument, but I'd like to comment on your post, if you don't mind...

I never heard that Rock Hudson liked boys, but I have heard he liked men.

Disagree that back in the old days gays didn't feel the need to "flaunt". I believe it was more like they didn't need the physical beating and bullying that would ensue from the largely intolerant society at the time. And over time many have come out (or flaunted as you say) in acts of bravery to end the self imposed shame of life in the closet.

"Flaunting" will likely stop as gays are accepted with full rights and privileges afforded straights...or "breeders" as I've heard us called!

frankj1 wrote:

not really saying that. I never call it flaunting, just referenced the word in quotes based on a previous post cuz I found it an interesting term to be used, I suppose for me the inference being that it is considered by the users especially descriptive of gays and by itself shows there is a bit more road to go for acceptance of their rights and privileges despite what the laws say.

So I do think demonstrations of unity, maybe some in-your-face rallying, and other somewhat forceful displays will keep happening as a way of pounding down the last doors of denial of what you and I never consider an issue at all when we walk out our front doors.

The remaining "floggers" will eventually be extinguished or deal with courts.

frankj1 wrote:

how many more Matthew Shepard type incidents, not necessarily resulting in death, vs how many St Paddy Day Parades (which I agree was idiotic intrusion) have happened over the years? In my lifetime we can be assured there were antigay incidents several times a day, still are. St Paddy's is one GLORIOUS day per year.

I know, Shepard is a particularly nasty incident in the way it ended, and not an everyday occurrence, but the bullying and belittling of him and others are common.

Protesting is to be commended, even when misguided, as it reinforces our freedoms too.

Agreed, nothing will change the minds of anti OR pro cause(s). that isn't even the goal. It's to change the obstructive behavior. KY clerks can believe anything they want, I'd even argue for them on that.

frankj1 wrote:

how many more Matthew Shepard type incidents, not necessarily resulting in death, vs how many St Paddy Day Parades (which I agree was idiotic intrusion) have happened over the years? In my lifetime we can be assured there were antigay incidents several times a day, still are. St Paddy's is one GLORIOUS day per year.

I know, Shepard is a particularly nasty incident in the way it ended, and not an everyday occurrence, but the bullying and belittling of him and others are common.

Protesting is to be commended, even when misguided, as it reinforces our freedoms too.

Agreed, nothing will change the minds of anti OR pro cause(s). that isn't even the goal. It's to change the obstructive behavior. KY clerks can believe anything they want, I'd even argue for them on that.

frankj1 wrote:

After reading up on the entire incident, it seems to me it was PROVEN that he was killed by a couple of drug ridden dopers who needed more $$$ for their disgusting habit.....not because Shepard was a homosexual. But like every other time that incident will be used to promote the incident as a hate crime....#-o

TMCTLT wrote: