tamapatom
10 years ago

Dang that #3 is shocking to me cause Anejo is one of my favorites and I have never gotten spicy from them before. I haven't smoked any 50s though that I can remember but a ton of 46s and a few 77s.

The Esteban chupacabra maduro was good and I liked them, typical maduro flavors and may pick up a 5er of those in the future.

I would never have guessed that el cheapo as an oscuro it was way lighter like you said.

Man I was way off on all of them, I have a box of anejo 46s from about 2.5 years ago I haven't opened yet going to have to try one of them this weekend now. Thanks Tampa it was fun!!

shaun341 wrote:



The chupacabra hooked me with its alluring look in a shpo....it almost jumped off the shelf and attacked me. Dirty little bloodsuckers.

I was disappointed in the oscuro......the other version of this that I had was a maduro that was darker but it was mixed filler....though the mixed filler was notably better flavor but not as nice ash or burn. i wonder if that is because the mixed filler comes from better tobacco but the long filler, though long, is a lower grade of tobacco?

Sorry the anejo didn't work out for you. This is what makes blind tasting so much fun. We approach things with no preconceptions and just go with what we like. I'll be interested in your comparison of the hibernating Anejo you are going to try this weekend. Anejo may just be one of those acquired tastes - definitely different.

As for the Torano, i had to throw my old fav in for this blind just for fun. I have no faith that General is going to keep Torano around - no mention of the brand in it's portfolio and no web presence. I think after the current stock is depleted you won't see them anymore. Another one bites the dust.
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago
The new Torano branding is laughably like the new Camacho.
tamapatom
10 years ago

The new Torano branding is laughably like the new Camacho.

SmokeMonkey wrote:



Difference being Davidoff benefits by adding a line to widen their appeal. General has so much already I think they are just buying out the competition?
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago
Could be. It's similar enough, though, that you may see Davidoff file a legal complaint.
tamapatom
10 years ago

Could be. It's similar enough, though, that you may see Davidoff file a legal complaint.

SmokeMonkey wrote:


Haven't seen it yet. Big bold primary color labels? Intriguing.
tamapatom
10 years ago
Back on topic......who is next going to give us some reviews???????
stinger88
10 years ago
Namadio's arrived today. Can't wait to get started!!

Thanks for the hitchhikers and the sauce.

David
frozenphoenix1
10 years ago
Dan's #1 was a 5.5" x 54ish x 40ish oval press with a medium brown wrapper and a two tone swirl of tobacco on the foot. V cut this one and am getting a bit of a sweet cocoa on the cold draw with a bit of pepper on the lips. On the first draw it was a bit harsh with a bitter pepper which calmed quickly to what i would describe as an oak flavor.

Through the first third im getting a nice long finish in my mouth with just a hint of pepper, a bitter chocolate and the oak flavor is still lingering. Lots of smoke output on this and a good burn without requiring any touch ups. Starting out as a medium, but can tell its building a bit.

The second third is still holding a nice long finish but it is holding more of the bitter chocolate or coffee flavor and a bit more pepper. Burning very well and holding onto the ash well. Gaining strength as it is going on through the halfway point.

The final third was still very good. Little shorter on the finish toward the end and more of a nutty flavor developed as it was getting to the end. One relight was required as i was watching hockey but just a touch of flame and it was back rolling smoke to the finish. Finished more medium than i thought it would but still a very tasty cigar.

Good burn throughout and lots of creamy smoke from this one. Im guessing this was the middle range cigar, as it had a good flavor profile but nothing that was over the top.

Thanks Dan for the good start to another round of reviews.
danmdevries
10 years ago

Dan's #1 was a 5.5" x 54ish x 40ish oval press with a medium brown wrapper and a two tone swirl of tobacco on the foot. V cut this one and am getting a bit of a sweet cocoa on the cold draw with a bit of pepper on the lips. On the first draw it was a bit harsh with a bitter pepper which calmed quickly to what i would describe as an oak flavor.

Through the first third im getting a nice long finish in my mouth with just a hint of pepper, a bitter chocolate and the oak flavor is still lingering. Lots of smoke output on this and a good burn without requiring any touch ups. Starting out as a medium, but can tell its building a bit.

The second third is still holding a nice long finish but it is holding more of the bitter chocolate or coffee flavor and a bit more pepper. Burning very well and holding onto the ash well. Gaining strength as it is going on through the halfway point.

The final third was still very good. Little shorter on the finish toward the end and more of a nutty flavor developed as it was getting to the end. One relight was required as i was watching hockey but just a touch of flame and it was back rolling smoke to the finish. Finished more medium than i thought it would but still a very tasty cigar.

Good burn throughout and lots of creamy smoke from this one. Im guessing this was the middle range cigar, as it had a good flavor profile but nothing that was over the top.

Thanks Dan for the good start to another round of reviews.

frozenphoenix1 wrote:



2014 Famous Nicaraguan Selection 3000s. Dunno about current production, but these were /are great with age.
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
10 years ago
Interesting to read a review for the same line of cigar I did. Pretty sure ours were from a different batch. The one I reviewed, the dominating flavor for me was earth, and the wrapper was darker. I didn't catch any coffee or chocolate in it, though there was a hint of sweetness throughout.
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago
I was hoping to do one of two this week, but I think I'm getting a cold or alleges. May give it a shot next week.
danmdevries
10 years ago

Interesting to read a review for the same line of cigar I did. Pretty sure ours were from a different batch. The one I reviewed, the dominating flavor for me was earth, and the wrapper was darker. I didn't catch any coffee or chocolate in it, though there was a hint of sweetness throughout.

bgz wrote:



Bought a bundle last spring, nowhere near what these from early '14 are.
shaun341
10 years ago
The ones I got BGZ and sent you one from were around Christmas time so not a lot of time on them at all. That was the first bundle I have bought of them and from what Dan is saying they were a better product it sounds a couple years ago. Was interesting though that both of you got to review the same cigar from different years.

frozenphoenix1
10 years ago
Thats a bummer that they are not as good right now. I would have bought those up if they were consistent with aging.
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago
Ok, due to excitement and impatience, I've decided to go ahead and give the first one a shot, hopefully my taste buds are in decent shape. I haven't taken detailed notes or given my full attention to a smoke in a while so bear with me on this.

Cigar #1 appears to be a 5x50 robusto with a medium dark wrapper. Somewhere in the maduro neighborhood, perhaps. Wrapper in smooth, with a little bit of tooth - just enough to give it a slight visual texture. I think it's a double cap with a stray bit of leaf but it could be a triple. Some veins, but not many of prominence. It appears well wrapped with some slight seams. It feels heavy in the hand and pleasingly firm (no Hep C here). There's a little sweet spice coming from the wrapper. Mix leather in with that and you have the scent off the foot. I cut with a guillotine and the scent off the head showed some slight citrus as well. As of now, I'm feeling semi-confident in my olfactory function and hope it bodes well for my sense of taste.

The head appears quite packed and the cold draw reflects that, as it's a little tight. I taste nothing on the cold, which is pretty typical for me. Time to light up.

Not a pepper blast, per say, but definitely there. A little dry in the mouth with the. Hose citrus hints as well. That quickly fades and there's a definite sweetness but it's undefined at this early point. The smoke smells heavenly, however. It has started at a medium body with a long finish.

I feel as if I may have had this before. The pepper is becoming more prominent along with a sweet earthiness. And, to quote Wheel, oh my - the smoke.... While the pepper isn't dominating the flavor, it is building on my palate during the long finish. Cedar is starting to come to the forefront as well. The first retro absolutely reinforces the pepper. Fantastic!

The draw remains firm throughout the first third. I'm stuck in pepper/cedar land and I'm more than cool with that. Light gray ash as tight as I've ever seen. The burn is quite even. I've paired this with spring water, but it may deserve a little something stronger. The ash falls at the end of the first third.

The second third, flavor-wise, keeps on with the same theme, although the the pepper is becoming increasingly prominent. Through the nose is absolute pepper with a few floral hints afterwards. I would say the cedar is becoming more floral at this point and there is a definitely lemony flavor on the tip of the tongue. Every now and then there a brief bitter interlude like charred meat. It makes a nice counterpoint. I would say the body is medium full now. The sweetness has declined steadily and is now gone.

More bitterness crept in, so I slowed down to see if that would help. And indeed it did with the floral/cedar becoming more pronounced again. Pepper is still primary.

The last third continues with prominent pepper. Most of the transitions were earlier in the cigar - at least to the point. The ash falls again, so it's holding on a third of the way each time. The burn continues to be remarkably even and the draw has loosened up a bit, but is still on the firm side.

Definite full body at the end, and the nicotine has come in strong after being nowhere to be found for the first 2/3. The charred notes came back towards the end and the finish became shorter in the final third.

This was a really good experience. Based on the quality of the wrapper, the construction and the burn I believe this may be the top shelf offering. If not, I have a great deal to look forward to with the next two. Thanks FP!
danmdevries
10 years ago

Thats a bummer that they are not as good right now. I would have bought those up if they were consistent with aging.

frozenphoenix1 wrote:



I didn't touch that bundle for 14 months, When I tried em, I was impressed, but decided to wait a bit. Come tax return 2015, I blew through a bunch of money I shouldn't have, and bought another bundle among many others. That bundle has not improved much, and started off much worse than the original. I suspect the crop that produced the ringers is long gone.
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
10 years ago

The ones I got BGZ and sent you one from were around Christmas time so not a lot of time on them at all. That was the first bundle I have bought of them and from what Dan is saying they were a better product it sounds a couple years ago. Was interesting though that both of you got to review the same cigar from different years.

shaun341 wrote:




Yeah, it was definitely interesting to see the other review. Like I said, I only had one other in the line, I don't remember the characteristics of it, but I do remember that I enjoyed it. I'm pretty sure as it's a house blend, they probably vary greatly from batch to batch.
frozenphoenix1
10 years ago

Ok, due to excitement and impatience, I've decided to go ahead and give the first one a shot, hopefully my taste buds are in decent shape. I haven't taken detailed notes or given my full attention to a smoke in a while so bear with me on this.

Cigar #1 appears to be a 5x50 robusto with a medium dark wrapper. Somewhere in the maduro neighborhood, perhaps. Wrapper in smooth, with a little bit of tooth - just enough to give it a slight visual texture. I think it's a double cap with a stray bit of leaf but it could be a triple. Some veins, but not many of prominence. It appears well wrapped with some slight seams. It feels heavy in the hand and pleasingly firm (no Hep C here). There's a little sweet spice coming from the wrapper. Mix leather in with that and you have the scent off the foot. I cut with a guillotine and the scent off the head showed some slight citrus as well. As of now, I'm feeling semi-confident in my olfactory function and hope it bodes well for my sense of taste.

The head appears quite packed and the cold draw reflects that, as it's a little tight. I taste nothing on the cold, which is pretty typical for me. Time to light up.

Not a pepper blast, per say, but definitely there. A little dry in the mouth with the. Hose citrus hints as well. That quickly fades and there's a definite sweetness but it's undefined at this early point. The smoke smells heavenly, however. It has started at a medium body with a long finish.

I feel as if I may have had this before. The pepper is becoming more prominent along with a sweet earthiness. And, to quote Wheel, oh my - the smoke.... While the pepper isn't dominating the flavor, it is building on my palate during the long finish. Cedar is starting to come to the forefront as well. The first retro absolutely reinforces the pepper. Fantastic!

The draw remains firm throughout the first third. I'm stuck in pepper/cedar land and I'm more than cool with that. Light gray ash as tight as I've ever seen. The burn is quite even. I've paired this with spring water, but it may deserve a little something stronger. The ash falls at the end of the first third.

The second third, flavor-wise, keeps on with the same theme, although the the pepper is becoming increasingly prominent. Through the nose is absolute pepper with a few floral hints afterwards. I would say the cedar is becoming more floral at this point and there is a definitely lemony flavor on the tip of the tongue. Every now and then there a brief bitter interlude like charred meat. It makes a nice counterpoint. I would say the body is medium full now. The sweetness has declined steadily and is now gone.

More bitterness crept in, so I slowed down to see if that would help. And indeed it did with the floral/cedar becoming more pronounced again. Pepper is still primary.

The last third continues with prominent pepper. Most of the transitions were earlier in the cigar - at least to the point. The ash falls again, so it's holding on a third of the way each time. The burn continues to be remarkably even and the draw has loosened up a bit, but is still on the firm side.

Definite full body at the end, and the nicotine has come in strong after being nowhere to be found for the first 2/3. The charred notes came back towards the end and the finish became shorter in the final third.

This was a really good experience. Based on the quality of the wrapper, the construction and the burn I believe this may be the top shelf offering. If not, I have a great deal to look forward to with the next two. Thanks FP!

SmokeMonkey wrote:



Well... this was the mid range cigar and it is a Tatuaje Tattoo Caballero(robusto), and one of my favorite cigars. Good flavor to start with, but that sweetness that is there to start is always nice and I have had it linger into the final third if I am patient with them. Glad you enjoyed it and look forward to the other ones.
tamapatom
10 years ago
Hmmmmm.......I may have to revisit the Tatoo.......tried it but never hit with me before.
tamapatom
10 years ago
Hmmmmm.......I may have to revisit the Tatoo.......tried it but never hit with me before.
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