dharbolt
10 years ago

The super premium stuff never seems worth the price to me. But when I've had em blindly (and they fall in my wheelhouse) I feel like they do impress, but when I find the price tag, it loses some of the appeal.

I've not found a $20 cigar that has ever out performed a $10 cigar, and I've found plenty $5-6 cigars that out perform $10 cigars, and get bonus points in my mind for being affordable.

danmdevries wrote:




I agree with this completely.

Though I do make an exception for a Padron family reserve from time to time. That are worth the price for a special occasion to me.
dharbolt
10 years ago
Very good reviews everyone this has been a fun thread.
delta1
10 years ago

You're just saying that because you're afraid I'll send you 37 more Perdomos and a 10 lb sack of grits :-"
...

SmokeMonkey wrote:



LOL...Perdomo doesn't get enough respect here. I like a lot of them, and they are priced right. I am planning to make a batch of grits with my next barbecue!!!
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago

LOL...Perdomo doesn't get enough respect here. I like a lot of them, and they are priced right. I am planning to make a batch of grits with my next barbecue!!!

delta1 wrote:



Do it and throw a little cream and cheese in at the end. Beautiful.
namadio
10 years ago
I've smoked all 3 of the Col's unbanded ones. I'll get reviews and guesses posted asap......

Damn that hot sauce is good too. Squire Morgan's Volcano Sauce. Had it on chili, chips n cheese, and a burrito so far. Delicious sweet heat!
stinger88
10 years ago
Glad you like the hot sauce. I smoked 1&2 already. #3 tonight or tomorrow.

Tried the garlic chipotle sauce on chicken quesadilla last night and it was great. I haven't tried the other yet.

I will post all review after finishing the 3rd one.
namadio
10 years ago
Ok all of these smokes ended up being in the company of multiple friends and I have terrible self diagnosed adult ADHD so these are far from decent reviews. But the conversation was good too! 1 outside on the patio and 2 smoked at the lounge.

Stinger #1
Smells familiar
5x50ish robusto
double cap i think
Habano looking wrapper
some large veins
firmly packed

1st third
familar earth and cedar taste
sweet flavor on retrohale
solid medium smoke

2nd third
was talking too much

last third
cedar or maybe oak. wood for sure. floral
still sweet retrohale, a touch of spice.

Paired it with WT Rare Breed neat.

My guess -this is a T52? The medium cost?
namadio
10 years ago
Stinger #2
Lighter wrapper than #1 but not connecticut by any means
maybe cameroon?
lonsdale ish size (forgot to measure before heading to lounge)
Not very toothy

Punch cut

Lots of smoke produced
Medium-full flavor

Leather and tobacco flavor received throughout.
Not super duper complex but continued to produce tons of smoke the whole time.

Great burn as well.

This cigar was completely unfamiliar to me, but I enjoyed it. I'm gonna guess its the premium? No idea what though.

Paired with Glenrothes sherry cask scotch.
namadio
10 years ago
Stinger #3
Robusto
Maduro

punch cut at the lounge again

even more distracted than previous smokes.... i failed at this concentrate on the mystery thing. Everyone in the lounge liked to hear about what I was doing though!

paired it with water!

Sweet retrohale.
Very very familiar taste.
Floral and sweet and delicious.

Maybe its an undercrown? COuldve been an LP theme? Is an undercrown a yard gar? Yard gar is my only choice left....


LETS KNOW THE TRUTH! THIS WAS GREAT FUN!!!
stinger88
10 years ago
1. Undercrown
2. The Hammer (little brother)
3. Sancho Panza (Honduras)

Glad you liked them.
namadio
10 years ago

1. Undercrown
2. The Hammer (little brother)
3. Sancho Panza (Honduras)

Glad you liked them.

stinger88 wrote:



Holy **** was i correct on med, premo, yardgar?!?!?!!

Wrong on uc guess but damn cool.
stinger88
10 years ago
Pretty good on the guesses. And yes, you were correct on the med, prem, and yard gar (just not the names).
tamapatom
10 years ago
Wow......glad little hammer shined as premium. Good rank breakdown.
namadio
10 years ago
I feel vindicated in buying 20 dollar cigars,. Never tried blind before super glad i could tell the nice 'un!
delta1
10 years ago
Here's the review of SmokeMonkey's #3.


Number 3 was a big cigar, a 6x60 box-press. It had a medium brown milk chocolate colored wrapper around medium brown and darker fillers. Two lighter colored stems were visible at the foot. It had a few thin veins and barely visible seams. The cigar was soft and spongy when pinched. I couldn’t smell much fragrance, but I had just put some lotion on my dry hands, so that didn’t help. The pre-light draw, which seemed very easy, gave a mild waxy dried fruit taste. Paired with ice water.

The first few puffs showed the draw to be wide open. Leather, wood, spice and a hint of light pepper were the initial flavors. The smoke flowed into the mouth and nose dry, but finished moist, causing me to salivate. A full retrohale tasted of charred wood and meat with some leather, and hints of pepper and spice. The open draw caused the cigar to burn hot, so I had to slow down and to take shorter softer puffs. Lots of smoke. About an inch in, the leather faded along with the spice and pepper, replaced by a wheaty/bready flavor, but the primary flavor was charred wood and meat. Then a sweet tobacco flavor joined as another primary flavor. The cigar left a minty/celery-like flavor in the mouth.

Mildly sweet tobacco with charred wood was dominant in the second third. An earthy pencil/lead flavor joined in, creating a pleasant tasting brew. (I used to chew on No.2 pencils while doing my homework in grade school and that’s what I tasted) Pepper notes along with some spice and a few citrus peel notes popped in every now and then, with the pepper getting stronger near the end of the second third. Still producing a lot of smoke.

The final third had primary flavors of sweet tobacco and woody earthy pencil lead. Sweetness seemed to get stronger. It is now past medium–full in strength. The pepper notes returned but in mild form, leaving little burn in the nose. The charred meat and wood flavor also came back, along with a sweet minty finish through the nose. Near the end, with about 2 inches left, the cigar went out. I re-lit it rather than put it down and was rewarded with some bright strong flavors of wood, bread, charred meat and sweet tobacco well blended. A few puffs later, the cigar got hot and harsh so I set it down at about an inch and a half nub.

The cigar burned crookedly in the first third, but rotating and blowing through it straightened it out without touch-up to the end. The light gray colored ash was flaky and dropped on my pants at about 1 ½ inch. The resting smoke gave a nice sweet tobacco aroma. As the cigar burned, it lost its box-press shape, becoming round in the inch directly behind the burn line. Smoking time was 1:30.
This was a really good cigar that I’m guessing is a middle tier smoke. It had the classic Nicaraguan profile of wood, leather, strong tobacco, pepper and spice, well-mixed with a few accent notes and reminded me somewhat of a My Father Flor de las Antillas, although I’ve only had the robusto and toro versions. I don’t usually like 60 rg cigars but I’m making an exception for this one.
delta1
10 years ago
Review of SmokeMonley's #1


This was even bigger than the #3, a dark torpedo measuring 6 ½” x 54. It had an oily dark chocolate brown maduro wrapper with fillers that were dark and medium brown. There were several small veins visible and two longer ones that extended the length of the cigar. The cigar yielded slightly when pinched but was solid, especially near the head. It smelled of sweet tea and some barnyard. The pre-light draw had a slight resistance and tasted like sweet tea and raisins. Paired with iced water.

After lighting the cigar and taking a few short quick puffs, my initial reaction was: this is a unique cigar, something I’ve never had before in the 6 years I’ve smoked cigars, in a dubious sense. It seemed like it was infused or dipped or treated with flavor enhancements, but in a hard to describe way. The closest description I could think of was a blend of candle wax, vinyl and bitters. After a few more puffs and a feeling of revulsion mixed with insatiable curiosity, I tried to put into words the cacophony of flavors and sensations the smoke produced in my mouth and nasal passages. There was charred wood, salty buttered popcorn, mild pepper and some odd tasting spice that competed with the candle wax, vinyl and bitters. The flavors were not harmonious, but tasted like an orchestra warming up and testing its instruments loudly. At the ½ inch point, the vinyl taste became a background flavor while a sour dough taste arrived for a few puffs. Candle wax, wood, and mild pepper led the way to the second third.

As I smoked the first third, I noticed the aroma. Smoke poured off the cigar, even while at rest for more than a minute and despite the windy conditions. This is the first cigar whose aroma reminded me of food: old buttered popcorn and weird fried food. The smoke smelled like greasy fast food…hot deep fryer oil that has been used for a variety of stuff. It reminded me of the smell of the fried food court at the county fair.

Reluctantly, I continued on and smiled when some familiar sweet tobacco tastes appeared. I noticed a tartness in my mouth after exhaling. The middle phase of the cigar was dominated by candle wax, wood sweet tobacco and sourdough bread. Near the end of the second third, the tobacco taste got stronger but not sweeter. Some mint notes appeared on the finish in the mouth and nose.

The cigar became more like a traditional cigar in the final third. The candle wax taste faded into the background, where it was apparent but not a major player. The main tastes were sweet strong tobacco, light wood, a little mint and some bread, but not sour dough. Nearing the end, I noticed some leather, cream and light wood. The cigar needed a touch up with about 2 inches left, and that brought back the candle wax taste for the rest of the cigar, which I nubbed to 1 inch. Total smoking time: 1:45.

I suspected that the wrapper may have been treated with a flavored oil, so I moistened a fingertip and rubbed it on the cigar. The water beaded and did not get absorbed. The copious amount of smoke at rest was another indication. Few cigars churn off this volume of smoke while sitting in the ashtray. The cigar’s wrapper did have an oily sheen.

The ash was a flaky, light gray that flowered before dropping, after less than an inch. The draw was favorable, just a little resistance. The cigar put out a lot of smoke. The burn was wavy, but only needed a touch up near the end. I liked the last 3rd of the cigar, but the first 2/3 were unsettling, not relaxing, due to the unique qualities of the cigar. The last cigar I had that produced the candle wax flavor was a Liga Privada Undercrown that I smoked in 2012. I don’t remember much about its flavors, but that unique taste was not my cup of tea, so I haven’t had one since. Don’t think LP does torpedoes…this may have been the yard gar, but don’t ride your mower smoking one. I felt like this cigar surprised me with its uniqueness, and may give it another go if it comes in smaller vitolas, just to see if I can pinpoint the flavors better.
delta1
10 years ago
Thanks to SmokeMonkey for sending me some challenging cigars to review. I really liked the #3 and #2. I have to try the #1 again, a truly unique cigar in my limited cigar smoking experience...

I compared the #2 Davidoff Nicaragua to a Camacho Corojo, my fave yard gar. I think that the older versions and the vintage '06 Camachos tasted above their pay grade. Not sure if the Davidoff is worth the top tier price tag, definitely a mid tier price though, and wishful thinking that it would be priced comparable to the Camacho Corojo.

Are we agreed that: 1) yard gar is less than $5; 2) mid tier is between $6 - $10; and top tier is greater than $10?


Thanks also to chazbo for hosting this. I know you said to post short reviews, but sometimes I just can't shut up and make it brief...apologies, Bro!
shaun341
10 years ago
Great reviews Delta, fun to read and me think that some of what you had may be good to try out even though I am in the same boat as I rarely go above a 50 rg.
SmokeMonkey
10 years ago
#3 was the mid range. You know I had to slip one in - it was a Perdomo 20th Anniverary Sungrown.

#1 was the yard gar and I agree fully with Delta's review - it's a really interesting smoke for the money. It was a Pinar del Rio Oscuro.

Glad you enjoyed them!
delta1
10 years ago
Perdomo 20th Anny Sun Grown...huh...loved it...it was a tad better than the ones I've smoked, the Maduro.

PdR Oscuro...hmmm...haven't had that one. I'll have to check my stash to see if I've been sent one. I've had a few other PdR...and they were OK.

Thank you, Sir!
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