I have a dead frog we could put in da cake... 😟

yep...see post # 33 ^

Seems both red and blue states are refusing to comply with the commission's request for data, with the Mississippi GOP SoS telling them "they can go jump in da Gulf".

This money wasting commission seeking to document/measure voter fraud is nothing more than a smoke-screen: it's really an effort to federalize voting suppression measures the GOP has passed in a bunch of states, many of which have been found un-Constitutional when challenged in court...

The commission is composed of those who have successfully passed voter suppression measures in their states, some of which have refused to comply with the request for data...what a cluster****

The aforementioned commission seems like a step toward a totalitarion country to me. For the data to be of any use they wouldn't they need to know how someone voted? They do not have a right to know how someone voted. I guess there could be a value to knowing if someone voted, but that still seems very intrusive to me.

...just learned that the state of Kansas, home state of the knucklehead AG that Trump appointed to head this commission, has refused to comply with the data request...it's against their state privacy laws to provide that data...unbelievable waste of time and money...drain the swamp needs to start at some point...

He also claimed mass voter fraud in Kansas, spent a lot of money going after it and found none

A Virginia college student was sentenced this week to 100 days incarceration for submitting fraudulent voter registration forms listing the names of dead people and other faulty information for a political organization connected to the Democratic Party.

Andrew J. Spieles, 21, was sentenced in federal court Tuesday for knowingly transferring false Virginia voter registration forms during the 2016 election, according to the Justice Department.

Spieles, a student at James Madison University, worked as a staffer for Harrisonburg Votes -- a group affiliated with the Democratic Party -- and was paid to register voters in the area during the weeks leading up to the 2016 election. Spieles’ job was to register as many voters as possible; he reported to Democratic campaign headquarters in Harrisonburg, Va., according to the DOJ.

After filling out a registration form, Spieles entered the voter information into a computer system used by the Virginia Democratic Party. Each week, someone would hand-deliver paper copies to the Registrar’s Office in Harrisonburg.

Last August, however, an employee from the Registrar’s Office contacted law enforcement after another worker recognized a registration form submitted in the name of the late father of a Virginia judge. The office then discovered multiple instances of falsified forms. Some were in the names of deceased individuals, and others had incorrect middle names, birth dates and Social Security numbers, according to the Justice Department.

Spieles admitted he prepared all 18 of the false voter registration forms by obtaining information from “walk sheets” given to him by the Virginia Democratic Party. Spieles said no one else participated in the crime.

Spieles' fraud was punishable by up to a year in prison and a $100,00 fine, but he reached a plea agreement with Assistant U.S. Attorney Jeb Terrien that limited his sentence to between 100 and 120 days behind bars, according to a EAGNews.org.

Film at 11... 🤔



but it never happens... 😟

Kid's clearly a dumbazz who was trying to reach a registration quota. I am not sure how it translates to fraudulent votes yet. I'll be watching at 11

Yeah... that's neither votes nor votes by illegals...

Keep trying to find that drafter. I'm sure it's there...

So he's convicted of voter fraud but it's not really voter fraud.. OK.. 😟

Certainly isn't millions of illegal immigrants voting...


...isn't even one legal citizen illegally voting.

But keep looking... I'm sure you'll find them somewhere.

You'll just move the goal post again... 😟

Before it gets moved....what defines the problem in your mind? I always assumed that the problem that would need to be corrected would involve illegal/false/ineligible votes. Are we talking about something else?

better yet, never mind...its more fun to argue on here when everyone has a different definition of 'the problem'....if we start getting specific, what's the point? .

I think the whole premises of the voter fraud thing is that just because you can’t find a unicorn doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And are a problem. Defrauding the voters. And stuff.

But not like the Russians…..

Started with:
Voter Fraud never happens.. Ever.. It's all made up and stuff.. dumb MFers...

Then it was:
Voter Fraud might happen.. but your source is chit and we can't believe them.. F'n morons...

Then it was:
So what if it did happen.. it as only a little bit.. go die somewhere..

Now it's:
so what if he was convicted of Voter Fraud.. Voter Fraud still doesn't exist.. and yo momma..


No telling what's next... 😟

Brewha..!! 🤣

You have a convenient view Drafter


I heard millions of people not only committed voter fraud, but actually voted illegally and haven't been caught. It's a systematic thing to work against my guy

But at least the electoral college worked and protected us even though a few months earlier agent orange wanted it gone and thought it was stupid and stuff

Maybe then, the disconnect is in what is your/my definition of voter fraud?

And exactly what is the definition of the condition that you/I consider to be a problem that needs correcting on a national scale. Because, I think its entirely likely that nothing the guy did impacted actual VOTES. I still think the guy in the article above is a dumbazz and should do some time. But, I don't think that he constitutes or is representative of a big problem. Unless, those fraudulent registrations translate to fradulent votes somehow. Maybe there's some other 3rd or 4th order effects that I'm unaware of....maybe % numbers of 'registered' Dems (or Repubs) translates to some sort of appropriated funds disbursements...IDK....like that stupid $3 thing on my tax forms...is that somehow distributed in a ratio related to registered voter numbers?

I guess, to me, voter registration fraud isn't a problem if it is not related to vote fraud

Trump had a very specific claim. You are trying to say he is right by identifying a case of voter fraud which is in no way linked to his specific claim ... no one here has ever said there isn't fraud in the generic sense. I think some here have even posted articles in which republicans were committing fraud. You're claim that the goalposts are being moved just shows you don't know where they were in the first place.

wouldn't voter registration fraud also be conspiracy to commit voter fraud..?? otherwise what would be the point..?? 😟

It sounds like he was told "Go register 50 voters", or find a different line of work tomorrow....doubt he had any intent of using the names to fraudulently vote in the future...but, I'm guessing here, too