teedubbya
9 years ago
^ cut and paste not mine
frankj1
9 years ago
I was there!
frankj1
9 years ago
two schools of thought regarding the coverage of "events"...Reporting and Recording.
jjanecka
9 years ago
Looks like Mr. Jones published this on his website today. Friggen hilarious up to abour 4:00. Turns out the guy that CNN targeted didn't even create the meme some dude in Mexico did.

tailgater
9 years ago

are non disclosure agreements blackmail?

if you disclose this than this will happen


or how about cease and desist arrangements.... we wont do anything this time but if you do it again......

blackmail is not legal

teedubbya wrote:



NDA's are signed by choice.
teedubbya
9 years ago
So this person didn't have a choice?
tailgater
9 years ago

I'd argue that the statement "reserves the right to publish his identity should any of this change" amounts to blackmail. It's essentially saying "if you don't do this, then this bad thing will happen". But I also think Trump saying "I hope this Russia thing can go away" amounts to trying to influence an investigation. It's important to be consistent.

victor809 wrote:



How nice that you agree obvious blackmail is indeed blackmail.

I guess we should therefore agree with "consistent" opinions regarding Trump.

LOL!

It just keeps getting better.

tailgater
9 years ago

So this person didn't have a choice?

teedubbya wrote:



You can't be serious.

This han-solo kid is being threatened unless he agrees to an apology and future behavior.

An NDA is offered for review prior to engaging in any agreement. The kid wasn't afforded such a luxury.
victor809
9 years ago
Of course the other side of blackmail is a monetary gain. What does CNN have to gain from his apology and future good behavior? If you can't prove they have anything to gain it's hard to say they're blackmailing anyone
tailgater
9 years ago
As a noun, blackmail requires the exchange of money.
But as a verb it can simply mean "to force by using threats", etc.

CNN isn't asking for blackmail (a noun).
They are blackmailing (verb) the han-solo loser.

Ask Frank.
He's good wif words.
victor809
9 years ago
I believe that might be extortion? "To force using threats"?

But either way it usually requires the end goal being to benefit the blackmailer or extortionist.... at least I think...

I don't know. I started this thinking it was blackmail but TW and Anthony had some compelling arguments against it.
DrMaddVibe
9 years ago

I believe that might be extortion? "To force using threats"?

But either way it usually requires the end goal being to benefit the blackmailer or extortionist.... at least I think...

I don't know. I started this thinking it was blackmail but TW and Anthony had some compelling arguments against it.

victor809 wrote:




Still with the Russia thing?

Good luck chasing ghosts.
jjanecka
9 years ago
And no one still picked up on the fact that this hansolo guy wasn't even the right dude? CNN just picked on him for a repost. The didn't even take the time to do the fact checking, they just targeted someone and made a false accusation against him that he created the meme but the meme's originator really lives in a whole other country.
gummy jones
9 years ago
and lets be reminded that the meme isnt even funny
there are so many better memes out there
teedubbya
9 years ago
If you blackmail screamers are right we will certainly find out lol.

Tail you conveniently grabbed on to the nda (which would be on cnns end and would dissolve given actions on the other end ) but ignored the concept of cease and desist in my same post.

Neither is pure in its application here it was meant as concept.

Blackmail isn't something that is remotely close to applicable here in my opinion and is actually drama queen Alex jonesish.

I also don't think the meme is what the family wants hidden. It's all the other crap he posted.


Meh.

Probably with lawyers involved......

We are going to report on you and your actions. Please don't, It's not who I am and I'll stop. Ok it's a deal but if you break your end of the deal we will go ahead with our story. And we will report we have an agreement in place right now without naming you. This is all in the light of day.
teedubbya
9 years ago
Maybe if he didn't post bigoted crap he wouldn't be in this situation.

But now the poor baby is all out of choices and being blackmailed and the many of you are rushing to his defense.

So what is expected is bigoted posting dudes identity is found by CNN. They contact him, which is routine, to tell him they are reporting it and giving him a chance to respond. He says please don't, it's not who I really am.

Now the dude either agrees to stop and the story gets stopped at his request (and fake blackmail exists rather than a deal), the story gets reported immediately,or since he asked them to kill the story he can still continue posting that crap but they must abide by his wishes because he said so, they didn't report immediately, and only his side of the deal matters? Blackmail doesn't pass the laugh test.

Sometimes the bad guy (CNN) has the solid legal footing and the good guy (the apparent bigot who wants to hide behind anonimity/cbid hero of the day ) isn't. It's a deal, not blackmail.

It's not the meme. Tons of them out there. It's the president tweeting it that started this. And the dudes other posts seem to be the issue. CNN sucks but this isn't a guy I can rally behind and the blackmail silliness is just dumb. He can continue to post and they can report on it. They both have choices.
victor809
9 years ago
Jj... I read it was his meme, but improved. Someone was an intermediary between him and Trump... this unknown person cropped and added sound or something like that.
jjanecka
9 years ago
Either way picking on a 15 year old is crap regardless of his views.
jjanecka
9 years ago
I mean as much as I've trolled in video games, online forums, and just real life stupidity really I'm surprised that I've never been an Internet meme or ever had media backlash. Lmao
victor809
9 years ago
... it's not a 15 year old... it's a middle aged man. I thought we addressed this.

And I'm seeing what the problem is. You're jealous you didn't get dozed by cnn...
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