DrafterX
9 years ago

This has nothing to do with history.

victor809 wrote:





it has everything to do with history.. who are you trying to brainwash..?? that has to be the stupidest thing you've ever said... I'll give you a chance to fix it.. 😟
victor809
9 years ago
What does it have to do with history. State what historical information you can glean from a statue built 50-100 years after the fact.

Paintings are art (as a statue is) and not historical information unless they are painted by a firsthand witness. If you want to classify the stairs as art, fine. Theyre an example of 20th century art.

delta1
9 years ago
I have no problems with museums, that's prolly where all the statues of historic people and events can be properly displayed...I guess it's like the Missions of California...many Native Americans object to their existence, but they have been preserved ... some argue the Indians lost and white people won, so the Missions stay...I equate the missions to museums, but my relatives didn't get killed or enslaved by the Franciscans...dunno...life is hard, then you die...
victor809
9 years ago
You're not smart drafter.

Your arguments really aren't good.

The more you try to justify this the more I realize you aren't thinking very deeply about any of this.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I'm very disappointed in you Victor.. 🤐
victor809
9 years ago
This isn't hard for people to unserstand. A historically contemporary item is historic information. A book documenting the event is historic information.

A statue is something which is created to celebrate a historic person or event. A statue of Lee is celebrating Lee, not documenting any history at all (other than whoever built the statue liked Lee enough to make a statue of him)

So... don't tear down battle sites. Don't tear down missionaries. Tear down statues in non historic locations celebrating bad people who were fighting to support bad ideas.
DrafterX
9 years ago
maybe if it was a nude statue of Lee... but the uniform doesn't tell you anything..?? 😕
teedubbya
9 years ago

why have museums at all then.. hell the Smithsonian is taking up some pretty valuable real estate.. it needs to go.. History sucks.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:




A museum is probably where most will end up. I don't think anyone is removing statues from museums. I said before I don't care and think the statues should stay. I'm not for the movement to tear them down. I'm not particularly pro statues either but meh...

I don't think anyone is saying go to homes and remove paintings. I think only morons are preaching destroy the statues (and there are some that are).


In this specific case a locality had already decided to remove a statue. I don't know what they intended to do with it... don't really care.



The nazis decided to protest (with permit) against the removal decision. Don't have to like it but they can. Some folks decided to protest against the nazis (with permit). Whatever... I'm more sympathetic to one group than the other but YMMV.


And apparantly a good number of good people who love statues decided to stand by the nazis or just didn't realize the nazis were there. They are soft fawn like folks who had NO IDEA..... gambling? in this joint?

I also heard the brooklyn bridge was for sale.
teedubbya
9 years ago
I heard drafter has a nude gen lee light switch cover that he flips on and off every night.
DrafterX
9 years ago
no way man... I don't even know what Lee looks like.. 🤐
victor809
9 years ago
Drafter. That's not history. If you think a colorless stair telling you a guy wore a uniform is history then you learned nothing in history class.
DrafterX
9 years ago
I don't know but I bet there's a plaque on that statue somewhere telling us a little bit of History... 😟
teedubbya
9 years ago
I think it would be funny if general shermans ancestors came in and lit it on fire
opelmanta1900
9 years ago

it has everything to do with history.. who are you trying to brainwash..?? that has to be the stupidest thing you've ever said... I'll give you a chance to fix it.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:


so if I build a popsicle stick monument to the losers of the 2017 superbowl, all of a sudden it's history? there's a layer of critically thinking missing from what you're saying...

stonehenge is history...

mount rushmore isn't history, it's a monument commemorating historical figures...

there's a critical difference there... and many people wisely believe that - like the losers of the 2017 super bowl - the confederates deserve no commemoration...
opelmanta1900
9 years ago


And what the Hell does "Jews will not replace us" even mean?

frankj1 wrote:



they took our jobs!
DrafterX
9 years ago
they've been there for a few generations now with no issues... if you're part of the PC then you see it as some sort of victory... if you're not you see it for what it is, the pussification of America.. 😟




Ok Victor, what if we took Lee of the horse..?? Can the horse stay..?? 😕
victor809
9 years ago
Oh... so now it's not history? But the "pussification of america"?bandit it drafter. You don't know why you want to keep them other than because someone you don't like wants to get rid of them.
victor809
9 years ago
Dammit... bandit=admit
DrafterX
9 years ago
Why do you hate the War Ponies Victor..?? 😕
DrafterX
9 years ago
I never said they didn't represent history... 🤐
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