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C'mon victor...those things happened a long time ago...you can't hold the current people responsible for their despicable acts...nor equate people today with them...

... but they sure do love those guys and want to remember them...Make America Great Again...

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frankj1
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9 years ago

#88

they took our jobs!

opelmanta1900 wrote:

work smarter, not harder.

opelmanta1900
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9 years ago

#89

You will not replace me Frank! well maybe one or 2 weekends a month would be nice... what's your schedule look like for the second half of September?

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#90

And I already stated that. A confederate statue erected in the south in 1913 tells you more about the south in 1913 than the civil war.

victor809 wrote:

Well, we could put guy in uniform on da war pony so people learn a little more about history and stuff... 😟

frankj1
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9 years ago

#91

so I'm gonna rephrase my question...

what does chanting "Jews Won't Replace Us" have to do with nice people wanting to protect and preserve statues of Confederate war heroes?
They should have been harshly condemned without any equivocation or connection to those that opposed and fought them.

The resulting fight was a separate issue from the intended message of the protesters, and a secondary discussion regarding the blame for violence could be understood.

also:
The statues are actual works of art, regardless of who paid or why they were commissioned. They are not Historical Artifacts of the actual times they commemorate, but they are works of art created years later honoring (rightly or wrongly) the way folks of that time and that location felt about the real historical events.

That said, there are reasons to put them in museums. Many will visit and weep, many more will visit and feel indignation. Judgement aside, art can and should evoke such strong emotions.

victor809
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9 years ago

#92

The resulting fight was a separate issue from the intended message of the protesters, and a secondary discussion regarding the blame for violence could be understood.

frankj1 wrote:

I'm not sure this is true.

Or I'm not understanding your statement.

But I don't believe the organizers of this particular protest had any real interest in statues. They are avowed white power people... I think they chose this particular issue (statue being removed) as something to focus their group on, but from what I've read/watched about the organizer, I get more of a feeling that the intent was to have a confrontation. They were just looking for an excuse... they would have chosen a cafeteria no longer serving white bread if that was convenient.

This whole debacle was probably considered pretty successful by the people who organized it.

DrafterX
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9 years ago

#93

White bread does suck... 😟

frankj1
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9 years ago

#94

victor809 wrote:

you're not way off on my meaning. Hence, what does antisemitic chanting have to do with preserving Dixie? Clearly their intent had little to do with statues and much to do with the indefensible message of Hitler live and on big HDTV screens.

But I am also acknowledging the fight, if only as a secondary issue. Should be a blip on the screen when Americans consider that they witnessed what many never dreamed they'd ever see here...and then have it whitewashed, so to speak.

victor809
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9 years ago

#95

What's the phrase Frank? It can happen here?

bgz
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9 years ago

#96

White bread does suck... 😟

DrafterX wrote:

^ true

frankj1
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9 years ago

#97

What's the phrase Frank? It can happen here?

victor809 wrote:

I see what you did there.

For those who have not followed my career closely, Victor is spoofing the title of the 1935 Sinclair Lewis novel It Can't Happen Here. Simply chilling.

but first ya have to get rid of the free media, then ...

victor809
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9 years ago

#98

Well... don't give me too much credit. I didn't intentionally screw up the title.... what happens after you intentionally discredit the media...?

frankj1
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9 years ago

#99

it just gets sooo much easier to recruit the unemployed, underemployed, and others angry at their lots in life, into civilian troopers. They'll gladly do the bidding of the emerging fascist dictator...and it happens so quickly after the inauguration of the former senator turned populist president elect.

A must read now, it spoke to similar emotions and societal divisions born of the Great Depression and it's aftermath.

frankj1
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9 years ago

#100

I left out that squelching the media leaves the emerging fascist with little criticism. So scary that this prez pushes that agenda.

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