Nope. I can respect someone's opinion without agreeing with it. I absolutely still disagree with him. No backing down there.

My use of the Senators and the local media were simply to debunk the proximity thing, not to take it to the next step and call him wrong because of it. I don't need someone else's opinion for that.

I made and will make my own arguments on Joe. Stating he is right because he lives there and has more info is just as bunk as stating they are right because they live there and have more info. It's a simple point. It's not the way I argue, because it has no merit, which is and was my point. I don't expect you to understand it but most reading this will.

*shrug* think what you want. Sometimes kids hide under the covers thinking what's outside the covers disappears. Whatever makes you feel good. And laughter is good for you. Keep laughing.

teedubbya wrote:

That makes absolutely no sense, but ok. I guess we just disagree with my intent.

teedubbya wrote:

Neither does you BS assertion that to live there gives you no more clarity or insight on the subject than someone who lives three states away.....whatever.

TMCTLT wrote:

LOL

teedubbya wrote:

Exactly...that's all I can do. To say that living there gives residents no more insight to the problem than you'd have living three states away IS laughable.
But then I'm sure you knew exactly how your wife felt giving birth to your children lol

TMCTLT wrote:

I have a bias against those in authority abusing their authority even if I might agree with them in principle. I try not to pick and choose.

For someone to be so "law and order" unless and until he disagrees with it is BS. Sheriff Joe grew into a legend in his own mind and more a problem than a solution.

Trump can pardon whomever he likes legally. That doesn't insulate him from criticism or political backlash though. I think he deserves it on this one but he doesn't care. To do so now, before sentencing and in today's environment tells you a bit about trumps base.

I'm still for Presidents being able to pardon whoever they want other than themselves. If there's a political will go for it.

teedubbya wrote:

BAZINGA!

MACS wrote:

DED if you can ignore the fact that others living where you do disagree with you and simply hang your opinion on you live there so you know better good on you.

I've had a long time interest in joe as has my family, all of which reside in PHX.

But if an argument over opinions is to be waged using I'm closer than you so I win, and our new standard is going to be proximity based this can be fun. I'll give you a joe. You are right and you know more than all the other folks like my family living in maricopa county, your senators and your major news outlets.

Does this new standard apply just to Joe or to all topics in here?

teedubbya wrote:

Have you ever as an adult collected welfare? I've listened to your opinion on it quite a bit, but since you have no idea what it is to collect welfare as an adult I guess your opinion is greatly worthless compared to those who actually collect it?

opelmanta1900 wrote:

I bet they're living off the welfare too... 😠

DrafterX wrote:

Joel, what the heck does your Q have to do with THIS post???? And by your post I take it you have been on welfare? Of course his opinion would vary from those who may NOT need or deserve it...but collect it nonetheless....and don't necessarily try to get off of it.

TMCTLT wrote:

They disagree because either they or they're family members are illegal. They fly Mexican flags at protests out here. It's ridiculous.

The drug smuggling, rapes, drunk driving, etc, etc.... the list goes on and on. When they get in, they don't GAF because they know nothing is going to happen to them. What's the worst that can happen now, they sit in a cell for 48 hours then get released before ICE can pick them up because the new sheriff ran on giving illegals a fair shake and won because enough illegals got in to sway the vote?

bgz wrote:

Make all the retarded assumptions you want Paul... no one expects you to be intelligent at this point...

opelmanta1900 wrote: