The Schumer Shutdown... · Page 8

Free Fall
Auctions

Specials
Auctions

QuickBuy
Auctions

Newly Added
Auctions

Ending Soon
Auctions

Welcome Guest

Forum Terms & Conditions | My Topics

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#141

How many peoples have died so far..?? I'm feeling a little guilty sitting in da pedicure chair right now... I wonder if I can get a pizza delivered.... 🤔

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#142

^No, he is pointing out the hypocrisy of those here crying about Trump being picked on. But as usual the denying is deep. You picked on Obama daily. But now you say we didn't do that to Obama.

Speyside wrote:

Go back and read the threads. My stance is EXACTLY the same.

I don't get the"hypocrisy" you claim.

He cried about the shutdowns then...he's crying about them now. Nothing to it except a different President.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#143

Additionally, approximately 85% of Americans support DACA

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-support-daca-but-oppose-border-wall-cbs-news-poll/

59% of Americans are opposed to the wall. Even more believe that if it's built WE are the ones who are going to pay for it

https://www.quora.com/What-percentage-of-Americans-support-the-building-of-a-wall-along-the-U-S-Mexican-border

HuckFinn wrote:

Ima let you finish and all BUT...98.2% of all statistical references are made up.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#144

The key GOP voters, the ones who really matter to the GOP politicians, those wealthy donors who got the lion's share of the goods from the tax bill, will not be affected by the shutdown...

it's the average American tax-payers, those who work for the federal government, or citizens who rely on the federal government for some form of goods or services, who will be hurt...but they don't really matter except in election cycles...

delta1 wrote:

What??

With the backpay? The free vacation? The average Federal worker makes more than the open market and do less to begin with.

Shut it all down. We'll see what's really worth keeping real fast. Eliminate the "fat" then and move forward, but those expectations are way too advanced for the Democrats or the majority of the GOP.

https://conventionofstates.com/

End the insanity. Ron Paul was correct...audit the Federal Reserve. The Federal usurpers have lead an entitled existence. They've yoked the future generations with their debt. Its time to get real.

Let the Kabuki Theater play out. It's only going to hurt the Democrats who feel they HAVE to have DACA. When they would rather fund illegal aliens that have come here and stayed here without bothering to register for citizenship and feel they need citizenship, well that goes against what they stand for.

Reconcile it for me please.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#145

Ima let you finish and all BUT...98.2% of all statistical references are made up.

DrMaddVibe wrote:

Even when they support your POV? Fair nuff.
Btw, Did you ever pass science?

Search: percentage of Americans that support DACA.
Better yet, fire up another j

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#146

Even when they support your POV? Fair nuff.
Btw, Did you ever pass science?

Search: percentage of Americans that support DACA.
Better yet, fire up another j

HuckFinn wrote:

The above YouTube has Chuckie not supporting DACA...your point is what?

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#147

The above YouTube has Chuckie not supporting DACA...your point is what?

DrMaddVibe wrote:

You mean...from 9-15-17?

..where's he's trying to avoid the deportation of almost 800,000.
800,000 people. Not rhetoric here. People.
That's gonna be ugly.
Let's agree (?) that we hope the Senate works this out soon?

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#148

You mean...from 9-15-17?

..where's he's trying to avoid the deportation of almost 800,000.
800,000 people. Not rhetoric here. People.
That's gonna be ugly.
Let's agree (?) that we hope the Senate works this out soon?

HuckFinn wrote:

No...I don't agree. Let the Democrats slither back to the table begging. They created this mess by trying to negotiate DACA into the Federal budget!

If you cannot follow the rules there's no reward. We have a perfect pathway for citizenship. No shortcuts. EVER.

When are Democrats actually able to follow the laws?

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#149

DrMaddVibe wrote:

You have really strong opinions for someone so ill-informed.
Not sure talking to you is not better spent washing my wife's car.
Support for allowing these immigrants to remain in the U.S. spans across party lines: 84 percent of Democrats, 74 percent of independents and 69 percent of Republicans think they should stay.
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/05/poll-trump-deporting-daca-dreamers-242343

You even know what DACA is?
Oh that's right, you don't care or something.
I'm tired of talking to you doc.
Tired of trying to find middle ground with people who still believe the earth is flat.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#150

That's not anything new... Nobody wants them deported... But this has got to stop... And the immigration issue shouldn't be tied to the budget.. this shutdown falls entirely on Schumer & Pelosi.. 😟

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#151

DrafterX wrote:

Nope. It's mostly Trump's fault. Even republicans will tell you that. They had a deal. Last week Trump listened to some advice du jous of Kelly's and...shutdown.
Trump said back in November that a shutdown would be a GOOD THING.
Did he change his mind?

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#152

If they're here illegally....DEPORT THEM!

If you break the laws...theres no free pass.

I had to laugh at one guy that's been here for more than 10 years being deported. Like he couldn't find the time to fill out paperwork? GTFO.

I don't know why it's that hard to understand. If they break rules to get here...they're most likely not going to obey any other laws.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#153

DrMaddVibe wrote:

you really don't know the info about the 800,000 who signed up, do you?

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#154

How do we know for sure all of them really came over as small children..??:-k

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#155

Yea some could have been large children

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#156

Just asking... They coulda been here a week and signed up... 😟

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#157

How do we know for sure all of them really came over as small children..??:-k

DrafterX wrote:

I'm not gonna research it again, but by memory I seem to recall the cut off was children up to 16 years old, give or take a year or two, who signed up.

won't change any minds, and I don't care about that here, but they really have done very well over all...better than their peers born here.

I can't explain away that they did not enter legally, but I guess I sometimes see gray when others only see black or white. Or at least black or white when it matters to them.

Such is life...

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#158

other conditions were attached...had to stay in school and/or join the military and/or be employed and a tax payer, etc. to qualify for this deferred list.