Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:10:21 AM
Here is an excellent dark cigar sweet notes right off the bat followed by earthy tones along with a woody structure very smooth with a chocolate finish.
Palama
Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:13:40 AM
One of the few PDRs that I like but in the Hawaii-only "Lancero."
tonygraz
Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:10:45 AM
Dumbass noop. Pretty cigar pictures attract idiots that don't know what they are talking about or don't know when to shut up.
Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:15:39 PM
Hmm, whatever Tony. Seeing as how I am a 36 year old, with my own set of morals perhaps you should save your comments for someone who actually cares about your opinion. As for me, I’m about as callous as you can get. With that said, I will continue to give write ups of the cigars I smoke. If I enjoy them, then probably others will as well. As for hype, I haven’t been able to find these on any website I know of, so I gave it my best personal write up. If you don’t like that, you really don’t have to read what I write.
Ewok126
Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:40:44 PM
Cathcam, I seen you gave NW props for turning you on to this cigar. Kudos for that, I also appreciate that you contribute to the community by sharing thoughts on such personally. This is how I came to love all of the cigars I now own. If it had not been for the ones like yourself sharing their info I would still be smoking dog rockets and more than likely not be smoking cigars today. So with that I would like to say Thank you Sir. I greatly appreciate your thoughts and your outlook.
Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:06:03 PM
Any time Mate, I believe that information should be free and available to all, with that said, I also believe in accurate information, so if I miss something, let me know. I love doing these write ups, after all, I have always been a writer at heart.
RMAN4443
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:16:51 PM

Any time Mate, I believe that information should be free and available to all, with that said, I also believe in accurate information, so if I miss something, let me know. I love doing these write ups, after all, I have always been a writer at heart.

Cathcam13 wrote:

I think Tony's point was every time you post about a good cheap cigar, the price and demand goes up for them......of course I can't really speak for Tony......🍺

Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:27:06 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, not going to attempt to attack it, but don’t attempt to attack me, too many have tried over the years, it leaves a callousness that is hard to break.
Ewok126
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:27:38 PM

I think Tony's point was every time you post about a good cheap cigar, the price and demand goes up for them......of course I can't really speak for Tony......🍺

RMAN4443 wrote:

That was the point I had taken from his post. I am sure that is the case that is if everyone that reads it heeds the advice and goes out to buy such. Cathcams opinion did get logged in what brain I have left, Now if I make a special trip out and buy or go out of my way to try and find it... I doubt that will happen. If I run across it by accident then yep I will refer to my mental note and grab some to give it a go but not everyone is like me thank god lol.

Palama
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:44:29 PM

I think Tony's point was every time you post about a good cheap cigar, the price and demand goes up for them......of course I can't really speak for Tony......🍺

RMAN4443 wrote:

While also not really speaking for Tony, I concur about not wanting the word to get out about a good inexpen$ive smoke and driving the price up but these have been out for around 5 years so it's not like nobody knows about them. "Under the radar"? Sure, but I'd say 98.2% of the regular posters and certainly a vast majority of the FOGS 🌫 on this site don't smoke nor bid on PDRs...even those branded under the Abe Flores label. "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."

However, with that being said, I do appreciate it when someone gives us a heads up on a good inexpen$ive smoke. I may or may not buy some but at least I know that someone without any ties to the manufacturers or incumbent on advertising $$$, hasn't gold plated a turd and called it the world's best cigar.

So Cathcam, right on! 👍

RMAN4443
Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:47:10 PM

While also not really speaking for Tony, I concur about not wanting the word to get out about a good inexpen$ive smoke and driving the price up but these have been out for around 5 years so it's not like nobody knows about them. "Under the radar"? Sure, but I'd say 98.2% of the regular posters and certainly a vast majority of the FOGS 🌫 on this site don't smoke nor bid on PDRs...even those branded under the Abe Flores label. "A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet."

However, with that being said, I do appreciate it when someone gives us a heads up on a good inexpen$ive smoke. I may or may not buy some but at least I know that someone without any ties to the manufacturers or incumbent on advertising $$$, hasn't gold plated a turd and called it the world's best cigar.

So Cathcam, right on! 👍

Palama wrote:

Very true.......👍

Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:02:56 PM
And that’s exactly why I do this, not all cigars are equal. There are 3 darkies I have smoked that haven’t even warranted a proper response, those nameless nasties shall forever be marked in my book as such. And I shall never speak of them again, except to say that I am not a fan of Romeo Y Juliette. There, enough said. lol
HuckFinn
Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:10:29 PM

Hmm, whatever Tony. Seeing as how I am a 36 year old, with my own set of morals perhaps you should save your comments for someone who actually cares about your opinion. As for me, I’m about as callous as you can get. With that said, I will continue to give write ups of the cigars I smoke. If I enjoy them, then probably others will as well. As for hype, I haven’t been able to find these on any website I know of, so I gave it my best personal write up. If you don’t like that, you really don’t have to read what I write.

Cathcam13 wrote:

Damn. Ya smoking cigars in your 30s?

Didn't get the habit, I mean treat myself to the wonderful pastime till much later in life.

Word to the wise: just 5 years of smoking cigars & you'll never get the smell off

Cathcam13
Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:27:04 PM
🤣 It’s a very good thing that I enjoy being single then, nothing worse than smelling like a cigar and not being able to get the scent off. As for being in my 30’s, I had a near death experience in my mid 20’s and decided to see what I was missing. Since then I have been to 15 of the top 20 beaches in the world, fished every body of water I possibly could, and have tried greatly to enjoy what time I have left of my life. I have lived, loved, and laughed my way through 11 years of fun. I will continue to do so until this time bomb of a heart takes me from this life. So, cigars away, and as my favorite lawyer says, Dam the Torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!
HuckFinn
Sunday, February 18, 2018 3:33:47 PM

🤣 It’s a very good thing that I enjoy being single then, nothing worse than smelling like a cigar and not being able to get the scent off. As for being in my 30’s, I had a near death experience in my mid 20’s and decided to see what I was missing. Since then I have been to 15 of the top 20 beaches in the world, fished every body of water I possibly could, and have tried greatly to enjoy what time I have left of my life. I have lived, loved, and laughed my way through 11 years of fun. I will continue to do so until this time bomb of a heart takes me from this life. So, cigars away, and as my favorite lawyer says, Dam the Torpedoes, Full Speed Ahead!

Cathcam13 wrote:

You sound indestructible to me.

I sincerely wish you the best!

You have a great philosophy for one so young!

For the record, women might complain about the smell so just tell them it's a cover for something that smells much worse.

And tell me how that works out...

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