Sorry Bandy... you didn't address my point. We're all free to pursue happiness. Where in the constitution, or bill of rights, or preamble does it say the government should provide your happiness? Or your meals? Or housing? Or anything?

Just wondering.

Ummm... MACS.... what does owing or nothing being free have to do with the statement?

If some women died because they were not provided with cheap medical services.... their unwillingness to work harder to afford better medical care doesn't change the fact that they died... it just means that you believe they deserved to die.

No Vic, they should have left their kitchens and TV sets and gotten some actual work done.

Hehe...

I'm fine with that opinion.

People like to couch their choices or opinions in the least offensive way possible... I think it makes them feel better about themselves. So when a conversation is about "Some people have died because we didnt do x" the response of "our government only guarantees that we have the ability to pursue happiness... meals ... etc" is literally saying "I am 100% fine if someone dies because they can't afford a specific procedure, or food, or shelter"

(Note... I'm not disagreeing with the sentiment. I just find it funny that macs decided to go on a nice sounding "pursuit of blah blah blah" speech rather than just saying "so what if they die?".... I guess it makes him feel better about himself)

That is perfectly stated and an honest perspective from the cons/right. It also contradicts the con outrage over the Dem candidate's statement that caused so much outrage. This is a core belief, and to get all lathered up because some Dem is trying to win an election by pointing out some differences between core principles of the two parties is an attempt to trick voters into thinking something else...

Oh yeah... "the Middle Class Tax Cut of 2017"...another con deception...

Tailored suits, chauffeured cars
Fine hotels and big cigars
Up for grabs, up for a price
Where the red hot girls keep on dancing through the night
The claim is on you
The sights are on me
So what do you do
That's guaranteed
Hey little girl, you want it all
The furs, the diamonds, the painting on the wall...

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There is much confusion spread by both parties over the tax cuts that to say 2017 middle class tax cuts are a con deception can also serve to deceive...

"To be sure, calling this Bill a “middle-class tax cut” doesn’t speak to who gets the biggest benefits of this legislation (very high earners and corporations). However, the vast majority of the working middle class will get a lower tax bill in 2018"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/markavallone/2017/12/29/how-the-tax-cut-and-jobs-act-can-help-the-middle-class-retire/amp/ 

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and what happens in a few years? One disappears while the other is fixed...classic "throw a bone" to distract from the real action...

If one honestly measures the net value of the middle class tax cut, compared to what the rest of the package is worth to corporations and the wealthy class, it is like Jack and Jill's Hill next to Mt. McKinley.

a wash for me.
a few shekels extra take home per week, gonna pay about the same as that above last year's balance due...