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teedubbya
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8 years ago

#21

Back on point, I still see no reason why so many in the media are blowing gaskets over Hannity and his lawyer acquaintance.
Why would a television celebrity, even one affiliated with "news", be obligated to reveal who he knows?

It's a false argument. He owes nothing because it doesn't matter.
To suggest otherwise is simply being too needy.
Sure, you WANT to know. But you don't need to know.
It's ridiculous.

tailgater wrote:

I agree he's an entertainer and in no way a journalist or news guy. But he does play one on Fox News Channel, and sleeps at a holiday inn express.

Maybe Fox News needs to put a disclaimer before and after the show indicating that its entertainment only and in no way is expected to follow any sort of journalistic integrity. Same for the other networks with opinion shows. If they don't maybe they should be expected to follow journalistic norms, values and ethical standards. Shep previously tried to put that in context (a few times) but Hannity fought back with Fox News support. Shep of course is a heritic and not to be trusted.

Hannity clearly doesn't embrace any journalistic ethics, yet there is the inference that he is a news guy on a news channel. Maybe the folks in here are smarter than most and know he is an entertainer, but many folks don't. Truth be told many in here don't. I watch him sporadically and his take and comments can often predict the next days comments and viewpoints in here, let alone on the hill. He leads not follows. Now as a plus hes an adviser to the Prez. who is attempting to shape the opposition to the investigations in an attempt to deligitimize them.

If I was speaking to someone in here who adamantly argued about someone like Cohen, railed on "the other side" etc. then later found out they had hired him previously and never disclosed that I'd take issue with them and their integrity. I guess I'm all about transparency and integrity which is why I find Hillary vile. Even though I recognize they would have no legal mandate to tell me, I hate liars and find half truths and omissions to be lies. He has no integrity at all.

I'd have the same take if that Maddow dude secretly hired hillary or shumer or whatever and constantly puffed them up (often with misinformation) and attacked their adversaries. I'd guess some would be ok with that.

Cohen is more of an issue than Hannity though. Hannity is an amusing footnote. Cohen has the potential to be much more. Better call Saul.

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opelmanta1900
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#22

Are you making fun of holiday inn express?

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#23

More to the point: even if Hannity were a legitimate news journalist it wouldn't matter.

How many in the "news" industry were friends with Bubba?
Or with Obama? You've seen him schmooze through the cable industry darlings.

Are we saying that there is no journalist in the greater DC area that shares a lawyer with a politician whom they reported on?

Really?

This is literally nothing.
Other than straws.
Being grasped at.
Unsuccessfully.

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#24

And let's be honest.

Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do.
They want someone to blame, so they attack the biggest names in conservative media.

They did it with Rush.
Now it's Hannity.

Same as it ever was.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#25

Better call Saul.

teedubbya wrote:

I think Saul was the name of the Russian national that gave Cohen his intro into deal maker for other big criminal stars like Saul.

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#26

And let's be honest.

Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do.

tailgater wrote:

Really. I've never given anything Sean had to say any credence. But he does have my attention for the moment.

But you're right TG. Conservatives, once supportive of guys and gals like Beck, Limbaugh Coulter, Imus and O'Reilly have even since the Bush Era distanced themselves from Fox types.

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#27

But you're right TG. Conservatives, once supportive of guys and gals like Beck, Limbaugh Coulter, Imus and O'Reilly have even since the Bush Era distanced themselves from Fox types.

HuckFinn wrote:

Not what I said.
But you run with that.

I don't watch his show. I rarely hear him on radio.
Everything I know about him I learn from liberals.
Liberal media and liberal friends who whine about him.

Pretty straight forward.

HuckFinn
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#28

tailgater wrote:

Not what you said?
You said "Liberals give WAY more credence to what the Sean Hannity's of the world say then the conservatives do."

I answered "you're right"about conservatives ignoring the fox ranters.

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#29

The fact that Cohen has only 2 1/2 clients and is known as the "family fix-it guy" makes me wonder if the advice Hannity sought was not about real estate but about something more nefarious.

Bottom line for me, I wouldn't give a damn but Sean is considered by Fox and many others as Trump's unofficial chief of staff.

Having the same fixer is suspicious.

Or no? It's normal?

The smart money is on Hannity needed things fixed from time to time.

Follow the money.

HuckFinn wrote:

Do you have any idea how many lawyers the guy has on his shows? He'd be stupid not to gleam them for some free advice.

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frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#30

one claimed him as a client...not that it will ever matter...

anyway, someone asked for an Amen

AMEN!

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#31

Hannity's failure to disclose his relationship to Cohen before making his pronouncements to millions of Americans who believe his opinions about the un-American and totally improper process of serving a search warrant on the President's lawyer, without mentioning that the lawyer is suspected of engaging in criminal conduct...shows his lack of integrity and a dangerous lack of concern for undermining the criminal justice system and the rule of law in the US.

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#32

delta1 wrote:

Tell me, specifically, how our criminal justice system OR our rule of law have been "undermined".

DrMaddVibe
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#33

delta1 wrote:

Did you think the same thing watching a football game about Jon Gruden when he was calling NFL games after being a head coach? I mean, he knew the players, the coaches, the plays and all.

I will walk it back again...do you know how many lawyers he has on his radio and tv show a week? Personally, I don't know why Cohen even uttered his name except perhaps it would deflect from whatever they're trying to bury him with.

Hannity has gone on the record that he never paid for his services. Therefore there is no client/lawyer relationship beyond whatever he asked him for advice on...he says it was with property dealings...I don't really care as I see this as pure deflection with no substance. To think Sean Hannity is pulling the strings is laughable. He's good, but he's not that good.

Stop listening to MSNBC. You might actually hear an opposing view that will make you do your own research.

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tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#34

one claimed him as a client...not that it will ever matter...

anyway, someone asked for an Amen

AMEN!

frankj1 wrote:

A day late and all I get is one non-Christian amen?

Beggars can't be choosers...

Shalom, my friend.

frankj1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#35

A day late and all I get is one non-Christian amen?

Beggars can't be choosers...

Shalom, my friend.

tailgater wrote:

it reads different than I say it.

Us Heebs say AH-main, and that's what I gave you.
Shabat Shalom. my friend.

tailgater
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#36

Us Heebs...

I don't think I've ever seen that in type before.

giggle.

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#37

It would be unseemly for the one who made the statement that induced a call for an Amen to issue an Amen, so I will refrain from saying Amen...ahem...

delta1
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#38

Tell me, specifically, how our criminal justice system OR our rule of law have been "undermined".

tailgater wrote:

Many on the right claim that this is a civil society based the rule of law, that we have to support our law enforcers, and embrace the law and order flag. Even Trump addressed lawlessness and criminality in America during his inaugural address, proclaiming the "carnage ends now."

Yet, when he and those in his campaign are suspected of wrong-doing and become subjects and targets of criminal investigations relating to their actions during the election, Trump and his number one cheerleader, Hannity, have engaged in a campaign to discredit the FBI, the US intelligence agencies and those doing the investigating. Hannity has called for a halt to the special counsel's investigation from the very beginning, and has echoed Trump's claims that it is a partisan hoax and a witch hunt. He has repeated the alt-right claim that the FBI and the DOJ are deep-state partisans who are out to get Trump and are failed institutions that need to be rebuilt.

After the FBI and US Atty office in NY served search warrants at Cohen's office and residences, Hannity and Trump decried the actions as an attack on American democracy, ignoring the layers of investigative and judicial over-view that examines the underlying accusation of criminal conduct that sought-after evidence in specific locations may prove which precedes the issuance of a search warrant. At least 35 - 40 % of Americans accept their views that the US criminal justice system is corrupt and out to get the President, who they claim is innocent of all the allegations.

Many of these same people, after Trump has been found to have behaved immorally or less than truthfully, are the ones who say, "we all knew who Trump was before the election, and we still voted for him."

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