DrafterX
8 years ago
And it's a damn good thing we did... Her crimes and the DNC's woulda been swept under the rug.. 😟
HuckFinn
8 years ago
Turn on the news
Benedict Donald and the Orange aids be goin' dowwwn
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Many on the right claim that this is a civil society based the rule of law, that we have to support our law enforcers, and embrace the law and order flag. Even Trump addressed lawlessness and criminality in America during his inaugural address, proclaiming the "carnage ends now."

Yet, when he and those in his campaign are suspected of wrong-doing and become subjects and targets of criminal investigations relating to their actions during the election, Trump and his number one cheerleader, Hannity, have engaged in a campaign to discredit the FBI, the US intelligence agencies and those doing the investigating.

delta1 wrote:



Great gig. Simply based on Donald's presidential power, he can now tell the cops to GFY.
You can't investigate me!
Didn't work for Tricky Ddick.

If I didn't have to shave twice a day I'd want that job.
It's like a super power!
tailgater
8 years ago

Many on the right claim that this is a civil society based the rule of law, that we have to support our law enforcers, and embrace the law and order flag. Even Trump addressed lawlessness and criminality in America during his inaugural address, proclaiming the "carnage ends now."

Yet, when he and those in his campaign are suspected of wrong-doing and become subjects and targets of criminal investigations relating to their actions during the election, Trump and his number one cheerleader, Hannity, have engaged in a campaign to discredit the FBI, the US intelligence agencies and those doing the investigating. Hannity has called for a halt to the special counsel's investigation from the very beginning, and has echoed Trump's claims that it is a partisan hoax and a witch hunt. He has repeated the alt-right claim that the FBI and the DOJ are deep-state partisans who are out to get Trump and are failed institutions that need to be rebuilt.

After the FBI and US Atty office in NY served search warrants at Cohen's office and residences, Hannity and Trump decried the actions as an attack on American democracy, ignoring the layers of investigative and judicial over-view that examines the underlying accusation of criminal conduct that sought-after evidence in specific locations may prove which precedes the issuance of a search warrant. At least 35 - 40 % of Americans accept their views that the US criminal justice system is corrupt and out to get the President, who they claim is innocent of all the allegations.

Many of these same people, after Trump has been found to have behaved immorally or less than truthfully, are the ones who say, "we all knew who Trump was before the election, and we still voted for him."

delta1 wrote:





You must live in fear if you think a Foxnews personality has the power to single handedly undermine our Criminal Justice System and our Rule of Law by reporting potentially biased information.

We had 8 years of a mainstream media in the back pocket of Obama and his cronies.
That was OK.
But 30 seconds of ONE lawyer being friends with ONE conservative talking head and it's Armageddon.

I'd LOL, but I save that backlash for things that are funny "ha ha". Not funny "you have to be sh*tting me".


HuckFinn
8 years ago

You must live in fear if you think a Foxnews personality has the power to single handedly undermine our Criminal Justice System and our Rule of Law by reporting potentially biased information.

We had 8 years of a mainstream media in the back pocket of Obama and his cronies.
That was OK.
But 30 seconds of ONE lawyer being friends with ONE conservative talking head and it's Armageddon.

I'd LOL, but I save that backlash for things that are funny "ha ha". Not funny "you have to be sh*tting me".


tailgater wrote:


Hannity posited an image of strings connecting people to Mueller with the heading "The Mueller Crime Family"
He contaminated the conversation with his slanderous bs. Only reason you're okay with this biased rantings is because....Trump.

Obama wasn't in daily communication with mainstream media personalities to coordinate messaging. That Trump was should scare you. Google 'the cult of Trump'. It's likely you've subliminally joined TG.
Cohen is more a fixer than a lawyer. If Hannity was using him to get real estate advice or to make payoffs or something else illegal and nefarious, I'm gonna let the investigators decide. Not you.
delta1
8 years ago

You must live in fear if you think a Foxnews personality has the power to single handedly undermine our Criminal Justice System and our Rule of Law by reporting potentially biased information.

We had 8 years of a mainstream media in the back pocket of Obama and his cronies.
That was OK.
But 30 seconds of ONE lawyer being friends with ONE conservative talking head and it's Armageddon.

I'd LOL, but I save that backlash for things that are funny "ha ha". Not funny "you have to be sh*tting me".


tailgater wrote:



Not just Hannity, but when combined with the POTUS and his personal media outlet, making that a daily attack, crazy things can happen...Frank points to Sinclair Lewis' classic novel on media manipulation...despotic control of media messaging has had serious consequences in the real world...

Here's an interesting article that describes the drop in Mueller's and the FBI's favorability among Americans in a recent poll, given the non-stop pounding by Trump and Trump media...

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/17/603039236/npr-marist-poll-gop-dems-divided-on-mueller-as-special-counsels-favorability-dro 
frankj1
8 years ago
Remember The Maine
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/17/603039236/npr-marist-poll-gop-dems-divided-on-mueller-as-special-counsels-favorability-dro

delta1 wrote:




What those polls tell me is that they better hurry up.

The "Unfavorable" is creeping up on all sides.

This was about "Russian Collusion"...riiight?


Now that Comey's memos have dropped, we can read by his own admission that there was nothing there. Game Over.
Mrs. dpnewell
8 years ago

Not just Hannity, but when combined with the POTUS and his personal media outlet, making that a daily attack, crazy things can happen...Frank points to Sinclair Lewis' classic novel on media manipulation...despotic control of media messaging has had serious consequences in the real world...

Here's an interesting article that describes the drop in Mueller's and the FBI's favorability among Americans in a recent poll, given the non-stop pounding by Trump and Trump media...

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/17/603039236/npr-marist-poll-gop-dems-divided-on-mueller-as-special-counsels-favorability-dro 

delta1 wrote:



Of course the favorability drop wouldn't have anything to do with the constant media publications of "un-named source" bombshells that turn out to be "nothing burgers" or outright fabrications. It's all because Trump is a despot. Got it.

David (dpnewell)
tailgater
8 years ago

Hannity posited an image of strings connecting people to Mueller with the heading "The Mueller Crime Family"
He contaminated the conversation with his slanderous bs. Only reason you're okay with this biased rantings is because....Trump.

Obama wasn't in daily communication with mainstream media personalities to coordinate messaging. That Trump was should scare you. Google 'the cult of Trump'. It's likely you've subliminally joined TG.
Cohen is more a fixer than a lawyer. If Hannity was using him to get real estate advice or to make payoffs or something else illegal and nefarious, I'm gonna let the investigators decide. Not you.

HuckFinn wrote:



Hey.
I trademarked the "because...Trump" line.


Obama wasn't in daily communication?
Newsflash: He didn't have to be.
If you were ever popular enough to have someone kiss your azz, you'd know you don't have to do anything except throw them a bone every now and then.

Look, if Trump meets with Hannity and tells him what to say, then you and I are on the same side of the conversation.
But that's NOT what we're talking about.
You're upset because Hannity KNOWS Cohen and didn't tell you.
He's a fixer? Says you. But let's say he is. OK.
Guess what? Investigations into Cohen went on uninterrupted despite Hannity knowing him.

How could that EVER happen?
Oh yeah.
Because it didn't matter who knew whom.






tailgater
8 years ago

Not just Hannity, but when combined with the POTUS and his personal media outlet, making that a daily attack, crazy things can happen...Frank points to Sinclair Lewis' classic novel on media manipulation...despotic control of media messaging has had serious consequences in the real world...

Here's an interesting article that describes the drop in Mueller's and the FBI's favorability among Americans in a recent poll, given the non-stop pounding by Trump and Trump media...

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/17/603039236/npr-marist-poll-gop-dems-divided-on-mueller-as-special-counsels-favorability-dro 

delta1 wrote:



As opposed to the non-stop propping up of Saint Barrack during his reign?

Obama, the guy who won a Nobel Peace Prize before he took his oath in office?
The guy who gives Chris Matthews "Thrills up his leg"?
The guy who called Police doing their Job "stupid" yet received a bye from the media?
The guy who had a debate moderator act as his fact-check DURING the debate?
Who compared his bowling skills to those of Special Olympic Athletes, yet was not ever criticized by the Main Stream Media?

I mean, you're kidding? Right?


HuckFinn
8 years ago

Hey.
I trademarked the "because...Trump" line.


Obama wasn't in daily communication?
Newsflash: He didn't have to be.
If you were ever popular enough to have someone kiss your azz, you'd know you don't have to do anything except throw them a bone every now and then.

Look, if Trump meets with Hannity and tells him what to say, then you and I are on the same side of the conversation.
But that's NOT what we're talking about.
You're upset because Hannity KNOWS Cohen and didn't tell you.
He's a fixer? Says you. But let's say he is. OK.
Guess what? Investigations into Cohen went on uninterrupted despite Hannity knowing him.

How could that EVER happen?
Oh yeah.
Because it didn't matter who knew whom.






tailgater wrote:


I think I'm unpopular enough to have someone try and kick my azz (at cbid of course) but...nm

I'm not upset that Hannity knew Donald (and didn't tell me? Lol) that's absurd.

I am pizzed that they spoke about content and direction before and after Hannity's shows.
That creeps me out actually.

He is known as a fixer. Not 'says me'. You ever research stuff? Cohen is dirty. Not something I'm gonna argue with anyone. If it's shown to be true you can applaud, if it isn't, he got away with it. End of discussion.
Investigation into Cohen is ongoing. With luck, Hannity's reasons for retaining him will be revealed and his wife will have to force a smile for the cameras like Melania does.
RMAN4443
8 years ago

I think I'm unpopular enough to have someone try and kick my azz (at cbid of course) but...nm

I'm not upset that Hannity knew Donald (and didn't tell me? Lol) that's absurd.

I am pizzed that they spoke about content and direction before and after Hannity's shows.
That creeps me out actually.

He is known as a fixer. Not 'says me'. You ever research stuff? Cohen is dirty. Not something I'm gonna argue with anyone. If it's shown to be true you can applaud, if it isn't, he got away with it. End of discussion.
Investigation into Cohen is ongoing. With luck, Hannity's reasons for retaining him will be revealed and his wife will have to force a smile for the cameras like Melania does.

HuckFinn wrote:


There's that "open mind"......I think I almost saw it
HuckFinn
8 years ago

There's that "open mind"......I think I almost saw it

RMAN4443 wrote:


I've already said, I'm done keeping an open mind in all things Donald
There's a big difference between being open minded and blind to the truth.

RMAN4443
8 years ago

I've already said, I'm done keeping an open mind in all things Donald
There's a big difference between being open minded and blind to the truth.

HuckFinn wrote:


Not if you keep an open mind 🇨🇮
tailgater
8 years ago

I think I'm unpopular enough to have someone try and kick my azz (at cbid of course) but...nm

I'm not upset that Hannity knew Donald (and didn't tell me? Lol) that's absurd.

I am pizzed that they spoke about content and direction before and after Hannity's shows.
That creeps me out actually.

He is known as a fixer. Not 'says me'. You ever research stuff? Cohen is dirty. Not something I'm gonna argue with anyone. If it's shown to be true you can applaud, if it isn't, he got away with it. End of discussion.
Investigation into Cohen is ongoing. With luck, Hannity's reasons for retaining him will be revealed and his wife will have to force a smile for the cameras like Melania does.

HuckFinn wrote:



Once again, when the argument becomes unwinnable the left change the argument.

RUSSIA!

Speyside
8 years ago
So Huck speaks for the entire left? You think this is how Frank thinks, or how I think?
HuckFinn
8 years ago

Once again, when the argument becomes unwinnable the left change the argument.

RUSSIA!

tailgater wrote:



You must have assumed that was the argument. Never was. I met William Buckley once. I knew him. I'm not a conservative. Really. Not.
Argument was, stay focused TG, the two men strategized. And that's not okay.

Listen, you want to defend Donald in perpetuum? I dont really care. You're prepared to dismiss the word and honesty of people in government that admit under oath that he's done really shady things and call them conspirators? You're prepared to put all your chips on him? Your business. It's that 'cult of Trump' thing I was telling you about. But cool.

Google the new book by Jonah Goldberg 'Suicide Of The West' . He's a brilliant guy, a staunch conservative, who makes really compelling observations about Trump and what he's doing. Here's a link to a National Review interview:

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/23/604854281/goldbergs-suicide-of-the-west-tackles-ills-of-identity-politics 


Used to be we, most of us, had enduring values and we thought.
Now it's all 'sides' and name-calling.

So, if you're that confident in the guy you helped elect, fine. And I mean that seriously.
I see through him. And I'm worried for our democracy.
Abrignac
8 years ago

And I'm worried for our democracy.

HuckFinn wrote:



Really?

If you were so worried about our democracy then you would be way less partisan.
DrMaddVibe
8 years ago


Used to be we, most of us, had enduring values and we thought.
Now it's all 'sides' and name-calling.

So, if you're that confident in the guy you helped elect, fine. And I mean that seriously.
I see through him. And I'm worried for our democracy.

HuckFinn wrote:



=d>


Do you think this is the 1st time anyone has heard the Saul Alinsky talking points?

You probably believe you thought that up all by yourself .


I'll let you in on a secret.

What got Trump elected was the carpetbagging Clintons.

She stole the DNC from the inside out. Used it to rig her candadicy. I wonder when Sanders knew his honorable man stance wasn't going to win anything? He held it together. What was he promised? Then there's the "deplorables" comment. Yeah. Right from her own mouth. You heard it. So did America. If that wasn't enough she even weaponized intelligence agencies against private citizens. The truth has already been found. Bury your collective heads in the sand while it spills out. The "swamp" and all its creatures swimming together. Some are running for the hills with their riches.

What choice did anyone have in the last election cycle? Vote for her or vote for him...or not vote at all. Anyone that voted 3rd party did the same as me...i didn't vote. 1st time since I was allowed to vote that I didn't. Put the blame for electing Trump where it belongs. Lather rinse and repeat. Do it again till you finally understand she ...Hillary...elected Trump.
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