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frankj1
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8 years ago

#81

How much will that cost me?

RMAN4443 wrote:

meh. 2000 kids with a parent or two? you wouldn't notice at all...Plus, that department is likely already funded so no additional surcharges will be placed on you.

now the wall on the other hand!

delta1
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#82

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/photos-obama-immigration-detention-facilities

“Obama administration prosecuted nearly 500,000 illegal immigrants between FY 2010-FY2016. They referred 1/5 of illegals for prosecution, which often resulted in family separations.”

Why all the crying now? Oh yeah...the economy is still going strong...we can't talk about that.

Next designed feigned outrage in 3...2...

DrMaddVibe wrote:

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/19/matt-schlapp/no-donald-trumps-separation-immigrant-families-was/

The truth is that although the Obama administration prosecuted many illegal border crossers, his administration refused to intentionally separate families. It happened infrequently, not intentionally....

It was something they considered, but rejected very quickly...

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#83

I'm sure records were destroyed.. 😟

bgz
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#84

I don't watch CNN, Fox, or any of the opinion news, to be perfectly honest...though tail says it's why people who think like me have been told what to think.

I read two newspapers, and watch a local news broadcast in the evening. Even get some info here from the rare links I open.

Yet somehow sound bites and stuff intended to create/shape opinion finds me no matter how careful I am to not step in it.

Yesterday I saw a 10 second thing from Fox with some blond woman (who is probably well known here) who said with a straight face while posing in front of a pic of kids laying on silver thermos blankets on the floor of a warehouse..."some liken it to summer camp, or private school".

My first thought was she had been told to do what was needed to soften the visual atrocity clearly presented. With no sound, your last thoughts would have been summer camp etc.

Any chance many cons are not coming to their own conclusions through enlightened independent brilliance? and aren't some of them not also elected officials?

frankj1 wrote:

The cons don't want to do anything about it either... Cheap labor.

As far as putting thoughts in my head... no, I've always wished they would do more to curb illegal immigration but thought it was a pipe dream because neither side wanted to change anything.

cacman
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8 years ago

#85

Get busted on a drug offense or other crime that requires serving time in prison, and Social Services will come and take your kids They will want to make sure your relatives are suitable to raise children before passing them off. And trust me, becoming a ward of the State and being dumped into a foster home or institution is no picnic for a kid. It's not he kids fault his parents are azzholes or criminals. But that is the system.

With crime comes consequences and punishment.

My daughter tried to apply for assistance (MediCaid). She is a preschool teacher with 2 Assoc degrees. She barely makes more than what many want to raise the minimum wage to. She makes too much to qualify. However, if she was an immigrant, or pregnant, or a single mother she would have qualified.

Don't want to get separated from your kids? Then don't commit a crime and put them in a position where you may. That pretty applies if you are a citizen too.

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

delta1
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8 years ago

#86

that is more humane than just pulling them apart and keeping them in separate detention facilities, sometimes in different cities/states...without either 's knowledge of where the other is...

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

tailgater
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8 years ago

#87

Perhaps someone has stated this in one way, shape or form in this thread.
I haven't read the whole thing.

But this attack by the LEFT is a clear case of TDR.

Trump did not make a new policy designed to tear children from parents.
He
simply
did
not.

Sure, a "zero tolerance" stance resulted in higher numbers.

But children are ROUTINELY taken from criminal parents.
Every
Freaking
Day.

The hysteria against YOUNG kids being taken away is real. And it's important. And the laws need to be changed. 98.2% of Americans agree. And this time they're all correct.

But the hysteria against TRUMP is a fuqing joke.
A President makes zero law changes, but firmly calls for strict enforcement of existing laws.
And then he's blamed for the results??

Petition to change the laws.
Protest for family rights.
But don't be so fuquing stupid that you blame the sitting POTUS.
Because..
Trump.

This is a public service announcement.

DrafterX
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#88

But they gots nothing else.... There's nothing else... 😞

delta1
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8 years ago

#89

Here are the facts, tail...

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/19/621065383/what-we-know-family-separation-and-zero-tolerance-at-the-border

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#90

tailgater wrote:

Don't drink and post.

teedubbya
Herf-A-Holic

8 years ago

#91

Yea that was an epic fail

delta1
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#92

tail insists that libs have Trump Derangement Syndrome...meaning that libs mindlessly get outraged at anything Trump does, regardless of whether there is a positive outcome from Trump's actions or words.

The reverse of that TDS coin is the con side: Trump Delusion Syndrome...meaning Trumpian cons mindlessly believe anything Trump or Trump Media says, that Trump's alternative facts are reality, despite being shown that Trump has lied repeatedly.

Given Trump's relatively small track record with positive achievements and repeated utterances of demonstrably false statements...which side seems mentally healthier...

Cons were going 90 mph, staunchly supporting Trump's family separation policy, repeating his administration's lies about it being a Dem contrivance ... Trump and his supporters injected hate and de-humanized the issue by calling the illegal border crossers an "infestation," "vermin"...a supporter openly mocking the playing of a purported audio tape of a child in a detention center crying by saying "wah wah" while rubbing his eyes...

And then Trump changes course, basically going back to how Obama did things.........................................wai....what??? Nevermind...