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TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#141

Here ya go Huckster....

They're playing you and everyone else who's falling for this chit

http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/21/crying-child-never-separated/?utm_medium=email

Not saying they never get separated, but their prop.....was a LIE

I know...I know, we should all bow to your superior humane virtues. Only people like yourself really care right?????

Edited by user 8 years ago | Reason: Not specified

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#142

Huck, I read an article a few days back that stated that according to immigration officials, over 80% of asylum seekers where lying. No one in fearing immigration. We just want it done according to our laws. When my ancestors came here in the 1880s and 1910s, they did it the legal way. They learned the language and assimilated into the American culture. They did not receive government hand outs, and worked hard to make it in this country. They where proud to be Americans. A far cry from what is happening today.

Sure, many immigrants are hard working, learn the language and assimilate into our culture. To these I welcome with open arms. The ones that refuse to learn the language, refuse to assimilate, game the system for handouts and then demand that we make accommodations for their language and culture, are the ones I have problems with. When some schools can't even fly the American flag because it offends certain immigrants, you know we are doomed as a nation.

David (dpnewell)

Mrs. dpnewell wrote:

Can you remember where you read that? I'm reading the opposite.

My grandfather and most of his friends from the 'old country' never mastered English. Hardly tried..

But he worked his butt off. His kids of course we're bilingual. And his grandkids only spoke English. I think that's pretty much the normal pattern.

I actually agree about assimilation. Though probably not to the extent you do.
The way i see it, what makes us uniquely American is our diversity and multiculturalism.
So a nod to one's personal heritage is a good thing.

The US is a microcosm of the planet, and a kind of experiment.
.. if WE can make it work it'd be proof positive to the rest of the world that coexistence is possible.

There's a lot of misinformation out there about the net effect of undocumented immigrants.
What you're angry about, gaming the system, looking for handouts and draining our resources isn't the overall reality. Research it. Here's a link I posted before:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigration_to_the_United_States

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#143

Interesting... Not a single use of the word 'illegal' or even a mention of breaking the law when covering the 'poor abused children' story on Good Morning America... 🤔

ZRX1200
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8 years ago

#144

So Nancy says the EO is no good , they want amnesty.

And there you go.

TMCTLT
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8 years ago

#145

So Nancy says the EO is no good , they want amnesty.

And there you go.

ZRX1200 wrote:

The Old NAG wants the votes....nothing more

ZRX1200
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8 years ago

#146

I'm not sure that's the goal, I think it's a sympathy play with the next election in mind. They've probably decided that the polling data suggests it's better to focus on this than the rest of Trump's agenda.

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#147

Interesting... Not a single use of the word 'illegal' or even a mention of breaking the law when covering the 'poor abused children' story on Good Morning America... :-k

DrafterX wrote:

Cons popularized the term 'illegal' immigrants (or illegal aliens) but describing an immigrant as illegal is legally inaccurate. Being in the U.S. without proper documents is a civil offense, not a criminal one. Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote “As a general rule, it is not a crime for a movable alien to remain in the United States.”
In a country that believes in due process of the law, calling an immigrant illegal is akin to calling a defendant awaiting trial a criminal. The term illegal is also imprecise.
For many undocumented people — there are 11 million in the U.S. and most have immediate family members who are American citizens, either by birth or naturalization — their immigration status is fluid.

RMAN4443
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8 years ago

#148

How do we know this isn't a Russian plot to overrun the US with all these Illegals....pepper the masses of immigrants with deep cover agents so during the next election cycle they can vote in and control our elections....maybe this was the Russian collusion Mueller's been looking for...weaken the borders, control the elections, overtax all the social service agencies and Trump can be Capo di Tutti Capo of the world......Bwah ha ha!!
This was Trumps plan all along....to rule the world, and to do it on the backs of the children...BRILLIANT!!!!!

🤐 [sarcasm]

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#149

So if I get caught robbing a bank I'm not a criminal.. good to know.. 😟

RMAN4443
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8 years ago

#150

HuckFinn wrote:

https://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2014/07/is-illegal-immigration-a-crime-improper-entry-v-unlawful-presence.html

Improper entry to US is a crime...read for yourself

Improper Entry Is a Crime
To be clear, the most common crime associated with illegal immigration is likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor for an alien (i.e., a non-citizen) to:
Enter or attempt to enter the United States at any time or place other than designated by immigration officers;
Elude examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
Attempt to enter or obtain entry to the United States by willfully concealing, falsifying, or misrepresenting material facts.
The punishment under this federal law is no more than six months of incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties for each illegal entry. These acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.
Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.

RMAN4443
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8 years ago

#151

So if I get caught robbing a bank I'm not a criminal.. good to know.. 😟

DrafterX wrote:

not at all, under new federal guidelines you would be catorgorized as "An Unauthorized Borrower",and subjected to the slap on the hand you deserve.... and your kids could remain with you
😰

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#152

Let's just make illegal entry a felony... 😟

ZRX1200
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8 years ago

#153

Landmines dudes 😟

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#154

Can people just walk into China..?? 😕

HuckFinn
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8 years ago

#155

Can people just walk into China..?? 😕

DrafterX wrote:

Depends on the size of your party. Sometimes you havta make reservations.

DrafterX
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8 years ago

#156

I'm kinda puzzled why we're the greatest country in the world but we can't shoot people crossing da border... 😟

opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

#157

and chicks are allowed to drive...

bgz
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8 years ago

#158

Landmines dudes 😟

ZRX1200 wrote:

I've always liked the idea of automated turrets.

opelmanta1900
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8 years ago

#159

what is that, just a bunch of homeless guys yelling out "c*cksucker!", "motherf*cker!", "titty-sprinkles!"?

delta1
Herf-A-Holic Topic Starter

8 years ago

#160

Why do these people come to the US?

in the 60's, 70's and 80's, the US embarked on "nation building" in Central America, especially El Salvador, Guatemala, Nicaragua and Panama, as part of a foreign policy effort called "containment". It was supposed to keep the Communist Soviet Union from expanding their spheres of influence into the Americas, as they did in Cuba. Our efforts did not result in acceptable and malleable pro-US governments in those countries. The opposite...civil war broke out in those countries where a ruthless military backed strong-man didn't rise to power. Crime and corruption became a way of life there. The masses in those countries fled the bloodshed of civil war or political oppression. They came here, as refugees seeking asylum, and we took most of them in. Many have become American citizens over the years.

The pattern is repeating itself...except that many who are coming are following the path of relatives or family members ... those who came before...

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