victor809
8 years ago

It's funny that people like Victor don't see how the 2% makes it all work.

NATO is a group of nations that support each other militarily.
That only works when each carries their own load.

Look at Germany.
They're crying that they want NATO (the USA) to protect them from Russia.
Meanwhile, Germany (yes, the same Germany) is in deals with Russia (yes, the same Russia) for their fuel. A nice pipeline that makes Germany the biggest fuel export from Russia.

Germany is confident in this deal because if Putin flexes his muscle they have NATO support.
Support from the group where they refuse to own up to their obligations.

And vic wants to talk about his HOA dues.

I'd call it "Apples and bananas" but he might blush.

tailgater wrote:



and you completely missed the point.
I never said it wasn't bad. I said that your attempt to link it to some other political point was tortured.

But of course you just plow on with your whole NATO thing, because that's all you wanted to do anyway, regardless of what anyone's statement was.
DrafterX
8 years ago
The United States isn't alone in terrorist attacks in the past 20 years.. . 😟
teedubbya
8 years ago
I have no issue with wanting them to get to 2% as promised and pushing them. Trump should get credit for increasing their contributions. As should the latter years of the Obama admin. But trump should get more credit.

What bothers me is calling NATO obsolete, making things up like Germany being owned by Russia and getting 70% of their energy from them,, and moving the goal posts to 4% prior to the agreed upon deadline to meet the 2% at the same time we have no intention on meeting 4%. Shunning the NATO allies through his entrance antics is **** too. These are our allies.

I also take issue with his antics at the G-6 or 7... whatever especially the let Russia back in rhetoric and the attacks against our allies.

Its as if he is trying to weaken NATO and weaken the relationships with our allies in general.

If Putin didn’t buy him and there was no collusion then Putin sure got lucky with his box of cracker jacks. He got an orange puppet to do his bidding. Putin has to be sitting around rubbing his nipples in glee.

Trump is delivering everything Putin has stated he wants for years including Trump normalizing his invasion of Crimea etc.

Odd.... all while the Orwellian doublespeak seems to work with some.

As for warren wgaf about her whining. I find her irrelevant and if the Dems run her or someone like her they will lose. She’s nothing and I don’t get the fascination with her. The trump like slurs to describe her I can only assume is part of the TDS.
DrafterX
8 years ago
You sure think about Putin's nipples alot... 😟
tailgater
8 years ago



As for warren wgaf about her whining. I find her irrelevant and if the Dems run her or someone like her they will lose. She’s nothing and I don’t get the fascination with her. The trump like slurs to describe her I can only assume is part of the TDS.

teedubbya wrote:



I'm glad you find her irrelevant, but truth be told she is very relevant.

She was instrumental in organizing the first Occupy movements.
She coined "it takes a village" before Obama and Hillary ran with it.
She wanted to "hammer" the evil corporation long before Bernie Sanders used that mantra in the primaries.
More recently, she's the one who demanded that ICE be abolished.

She's nothing more than an obstructionist, but she has a knack for hitting home runs on the talking points that her base embrace.
Speyside
8 years ago
What I do not understand is why her base is not demonized like the alt right is. Many of both groups are on the fringes of society and exhibit dangerous behavior. How is ANTIFA rioting any different than white supremicists rioting?

She needs to be made irrelevant. We do not need extremists in our government.
DrafterX
8 years ago
You mean there were bad guys on both sides..?? 😕
Buckwheat
8 years ago

What I do not understand is why her base is not demonized like the alt right is. Many of both groups are on the fringes of society and exhibit dangerous behavior. How is ANTIFA rioting any different than white supremicists rioting?

She needs to be made irrelevant. We do not need extremists in our government.

Speyside wrote:



Well then you can exclude both her and Trump from our government then.
Speyside
8 years ago
Drafter, yes.

Buckwheat, I would be all for that.
bgz
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  • Herf-A-Holic
8 years ago

He does his best trolling work on twitter.

ZRX1200 wrote:



True... I am a fan of his work by the way... I just don't think he should be doing it :D

Or at the very least, have someone proof read his s**t first.
tailgater
8 years ago

What I do not understand is why her base is not demonized like the alt right is. Many of both groups are on the fringes of society and exhibit dangerous behavior. How is ANTIFA rioting any different than white supremicists rioting?

She needs to be made irrelevant. We do not need extremists in our government.

Speyside wrote:




Her base isn't demonized because the mainstream dems can't bring themselves to disagree with anything viewed as anti-Trump.

As for ANTIFA, despite how much they disgust me, there is no real comparison to white supremacists.
ANTIFA are simple anarchists who claim to be anti-fascist but fall short because they have no real message.

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