frankj1
7 years ago

I hate condoms... does that count?

opelmanta1900 wrote:


I hate 'em too, so I took the cure. Well, there is a story but not gonna get told here.

So are seed spillers sinners or just criminals? It's wicked important cuz of laws and stuff.
frankj1
7 years ago
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

I hate 'em too, so I took the cure. Well, there is a story but not gonna get told here.

So are seed spillers sinners or just criminals? It's wicked important cuz of laws and stuff.

frankj1 wrote:


your half of the book had a litte something to say about it... but personally I think it had more to do with not fulfilling duties and such than it did "seed spilling"... gross...
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

Hi Joel.

frankj1 wrote:


hola frank...
frankj1
7 years ago
going to bed, I'm on "E".
Love ya brother.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
back at ya...
victor809
7 years ago
Yeah I'm gonna bet that the sample size of women willing to tell gene that they had an abortion in the past is pretty small. The chances of him having a friend who is both pleased and vocal about an abortion are about the same as me having a friend who's a vocal Evangelical.
Gene363
7 years ago

just how many of these women are in your circle of friends?!!!
Man, I'm Pro Choice and don't know very many.

frankj1 wrote:



More than one, and it''s unlikely they will casually reveal this information.
Gene363
7 years ago

Yeah I'm gonna bet that the sample size of women willing to tell gene that they had an abortion in the past is pretty small. The chances of him having a friend who is both pleased and vocal about an abortion are about the same as me having a friend who's a vocal Evangelical.

victor809 wrote:



Well, you'd be wrong, again. So what is your count?

bgz
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7 years ago
A fetus is pretty much equivalent to a tumor or parasite until it's brain sufficiently develops.

I have no problem with women killing it with fire if they want to.

As far as how they feel later in life about the decision, it was their decision, I had nothing to do with that sh*t (and I really shouldn't have anything to do with that).

Also, because of medical breakthroughs and the things we know about the state of little George in the womb, the only reasoning anyone can give for not allowing abortions these days are religious in nature.

If it wasn't for the religious stuff, I might have been a registered Republican... as it sits, I'm just some guy without a political party to call his own, and frankly, I'm ok with that...

Gives me a reason to read the voter guide.

victor809
7 years ago

Well, you'd be wrong, again. So what is your count?

Gene363 wrote:



So now your stance is that you know women who are pleased they had abortions?
Ewok126
7 years ago
I am both pro choice and pro life. I guess that would make me confused?

Abortion is not for me or my wife, I have a tendency to place my feelings towards the fetus because I know what it can become. I also see a fetus as a chance at future hope. Keywords being "A CHANCE" and to wipe it out to me is a waste but, on the other hand I have no right to tell any woman that she has to carry full term. Exactly like no one has the right to tell me what to do with my body.

Before my father passed his kidneys failed. I was not forced to donate a kidney, I was not forced to even see if I could donate. If I could have donated it could have saved his life or extended it for a longer period of time. The choice was mine and mine alone. I see this kind of thing in the same fashion. I was not pushed or coerced by his wife, his mother or any of his immediate family. Much less from society which is as it should be. My father was only 42 so still very young. I made my choice and tried but we was not compatible. I had to do what I had to live with. I think women should be given the same respect and dignity when it comes to aborting. If I had said no, I am sure my father's mother would have been very pissed at me and so would have the rest of my family but that was a choice that only I could make and would have to live with.

As far as having a choice on where our tax money goes. Honestly if all of us was give a choice we would not pay taxes at all. I do not like that my tax money is used towards things I do not agree with but I am not given that choice. No matter which wing is in control some of my tax money will always go to things I do not agree with. So, I try not to worry with things I can not change.

This is just me, I know there are others that think and feel differently and that is cool. Why, well because just like me they have to go to sleep at night with there own conscious, that is their choice, their life. It is not up to me or anyone else to try and change that and take that from them. Any how, that is where I stand at this particular moment in time.
Buckwheat
7 years ago
I'm pro, "The government should stay out of it!". 🌫
dstieger
7 years ago

That's true, murder is defined as an unlawful killing.

Abortion != murder.

Looks like today is an agree with victor day.

bgz wrote:




Looks like my 'agree with victor day' is today...I agree with most of what Victor and bgz have posted to on this thread. I acknowledge your point, Gene, that many women who have had abortions struggle with having made that decision later in life. I'm not sure I understand it....probably takes a woman to really understand it....then again I'm much more 'anti-regrets' (about anything I made a conscious decision about) than most women I've known.

I miss wheel....

MACS
7 years ago

Perfect. A bunch of old fart cigar smokers telling women what to do with their bodies.

Abortion equals murder? Hah! When we see you out there standing against capital punishment, then maybe you’ll have some credibility.

Maybe.

fiddler898 wrote:



Not really interested in the debate at hand, but to compare the two is idiotic.

One did something to deserve death, the other is innocent.
MACS
7 years ago

I'm pro, "The government should stay out of it!". 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:



Agreed.
bgz
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7 years ago

I'm pro, "The government should stay out of it!". 🌫

Buckwheat wrote:



Yes, definitely agree with that statement for most things.

Keep regulations as minimal as possible across the board.
Gene363
7 years ago

So now your stance is that you know women who are pleased they had abortions?

victor809 wrote:



Just the opposite, now answer the question?
Gene363
7 years ago

No answer required, but I wonder how many pro abortion folks have children or grandchildren.

My point of view changed considerably after becoming a Father and again a Grandfather. You don't know what you don't know. It doesn't mean you cannot have an option, (Victor) but an experience that can shape your opinion.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago



And as for the OP, Spey, I am staunchly Pro-Choice. However, I choose life, it is a choice after all, but I do not feel my choice should be the law of the land for women...nor should the choice of other fat cigar smoking pasty skinned old white guys be the forced choice for women and their bodies.

frankj1 wrote:


staunch supporter of decriminalization of all drugs I assume? my body my choice? I cant imagine anyone thinking an abortion is healthier than a line of coke...
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