bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
7 years ago

Bgz... You're not wrong... I would expect it...
But that doesn't necessarily mean that he thought he needed to test it.
If he wanted to make a point without exploding he could have just had "bang" on a note... Or some "suspicious white powder"...

Remember... This is a hardcore trump supporter. He really could have been stupid enough to assume his design didn't need testing. It isn't like he was really that careful or meticulous. He was caught within a couple days ...

victor809 wrote:



You said that with high confidence, so I checked the news... didn't know they caught him, haven't been following the news today.

Should be an interesting news weekend.
Abrignac
7 years ago
About a mile from my house there is a large LE presence, ATF, FBI, state and local police. Apparently they found a bomb.

http://www.wafb.com/2018/10/26/fbi-atf-fbi-respond-denham-springs-business/ 
Abrignac
7 years ago

About a mile from my house there is a large LE presence, ATF, FBI, state and local police. Apparently they found a bomb.

http://www.wafb.com/2018/10/26/fbi-atf-fbi-respond-denham-springs-business/ 

Abrignac wrote:



Looks like it’s unrelated to the other bombs. From what I’ve been told it’s a an impound lot. Seems like a local meth head got upset when he couldn’t get his car out of jail.
victor809
7 years ago

You said that with high confidence, so I checked the news... didn't know they caught him, haven't been following the news today.

Should be an interesting news weekend.

bgz wrote:



Well, my confidence was based on the fact he got caught almost immediately. I mean....he couldn't have been that careful.
More interestingly, from a purely theoretical basis, you could guess he may have expected to get caught very quickly, based on the timing of his packages. He essentially sent them all out at once (or over a very short period of time). Someone who is being careful, meticulous and doesn't expect to get caught doesn't operate in high volume. They expect they have plenty of time to send out the next package. Someone who expects to get caught would send everything they have immediately, which is what it looks like he did (unless he's got 100s of them in his house and this really was "pacing it" for him).
Abrignac
7 years ago

Well, my confidence was based on the fact he got caught almost immediately. I mean....he couldn't have been that careful.
More interestingly, from a purely theoretical basis, you could guess he may have expected to get caught very quickly, based on the timing of his packages. He essentially sent them all out at once (or over a very short period of time). Someone who is being careful, meticulous and doesn't expect to get caught doesn't operate in high volume. They expect they have plenty of time to send out the next package. Someone who expects to get caught would send everything they have immediately, which is what it looks like he did (unless he's got 100s of them in his house and this really was "pacing it" for him).

victor809 wrote:



From what I’ve read his feed bag is always a bit lite.
Abrignac
7 years ago
Now I’m hearing they executed a federal warrant of the owner’s residence. Maybe it’s not a local meth head after all.
Speyside
7 years ago
Crickets in here. Trump supporter. Photos of him in his maga hat at Trump rallies holding up signs. Bombs all went to people Trump has continually attacked. Check out the guys van, tweets, facebook, etc. Bombs were real, just to stupid to make them viable. Trump still going on the offensive. And so it goes. Crickets in here. Stand up and admit Trump owns this, Trump needs to STFU. You sure are able to say how dangerous many liberals are because a few have gotten in the faces of Republicans to be heard. Bernie Sanders never talked about his political detractors like Trump does. Crickets in here. Bernie Sanders said he was sickened that Steve Scalise was shot. Trump says this is slowing Republican election wave. There is nothing presidential about Trump. Own that. Crickets in here.
Abrignac
7 years ago

Crickets in here. Trump supporter. Photos of him in his maga hat at Trump rallies holding up signs. Bombs all went to people Trump has continually attacked. Check out the guys van, tweets, facebook, etc. Bombs were real, just to stupid to make them viable. Trump still going on the offensive. And so it goes. Crickets in here. Stand up and admit Trump owns this, Trump needs to STFU. You sure are able to say how dangerous many liberals are because a few have gotten in the faces of Republicans to be heard. Bernie Sanders never talked about his political detractors like Trump does. Crickets in here. Bernie Sanders said he was sickened that Steve Scalise was shot. Trump says this is slowing Republican election wave. There is nothing presidential about Trump. Own that. Crickets in here.

Speyside wrote:



Crickets
Speyside
7 years ago
Well played sir. With the problem so near your home I hope you and yours are safe.
Abrignac
7 years ago

Well played sir. With the problem so near your home I hope you and yours are safe.

Speyside wrote:



We’re good. I went by there this afternoon. One my buddies was manning a road block. As I walked up he said, Don’t ask B because I don’t know anything. The Feds haven’t told us anything.”

Both Trump and his critics need to dial back the rhetoric.
RobertHively
7 years ago

Crickets in here. Trump supporter. Photos of him in his maga hat at Trump rallies holding up signs. Bombs all went to people Trump has continually attacked. Check out the guys van, tweets, facebook, etc. Bombs were real, just to stupid to make them viable. Trump still going on the offensive. And so it goes. Crickets in here. Stand up and admit Trump owns this, Trump needs to STFU. You sure are able to say how dangerous many liberals are because a few have gotten in the faces of Republicans to be heard. Bernie Sanders never talked about his political detractors like Trump does. Crickets in here. Bernie Sanders said he was sickened that Steve Scalise was shot. Trump says this is slowing Republican election wave. There is nothing presidential about Trump. Own that. Crickets in here.

Speyside wrote:




The truth is nobody really knows who sent these "bombs", but I still think it was a hoax to garner votes for the liberal agenda. The tried and true "October Surprise". October Surprise: ( In American political jargon, an October surprise is a news event deliberately created or timed or sometimes occurring spontaneously to influence the outcome of an election, particularly one for the U.S. presidency. The reference to the month of October is because the date for national elections is in early November. Therefore, events that take place in late October have greater potential to influence the decisions of prospective voters.)

This potential hoax isn't the first, and it wont be the last. If you choose to believe that Cesar Sayoc is the guy that dropped off all these packages that's fine. I choose not to take the word of known liars (The United States Government and the mainstream media).

Could it be that a mentally retarded Trump supporter really thought those were viable bombs, and then proceeded to send them out in order to kill political elites? Sure, anything is possible.

It could also be that certain elites and citizens who hate that nationalism has overtaken this country created the problem, to get a reaction from un-knowing citizens in order to provide the solution to the problem that they created. "Blue wave" solution (This time)

Think they wouldn't go to that level? Read the work of philosopher Georg Hegel. The Hegelian Dialectic: (Thesis, anti-thesis, synthesis) In lay terms Problem, Reaction, Solution. It really goes deep down the rabbit hole. Apply that to other wars and tragedies, and laws throughout history. Who stands to gain?

However, it's your right as an American to swallow down what the government and mainstream media tells you. It's also my right to think for myself. When considering these kinds of events it's safe to say that a lot of the time no one will ever know the entire truth. But over the years I have learned that you will never know the truth if you stick to the mainstream media or government press releases.

Look for yourself... I am also interested to here what Trump supporters think, as well as the Trump haters.

opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Is that a copy/paste from info wars?
RobertHively
7 years ago

Is that a copy/paste from info wars?

opelmanta1900 wrote:




Nope. The only copy/paste was the October Surprise definition. Source Wilipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_surprise 
Speyside
7 years ago
I have a better answer for you. Occam's razor. Your thought process seems illogical if you look at the available facts.

1) He has been arrested 9 times.
2) In 2002 he was arrested for threatening to bomb the Florida Power and Light company.
3) According to his cousin he allegedly he took a lot of steroids. He does have that bulked up look with the muscled up eyebrows area.
4) His ex boss said he allegedly hated none whites and Jews and thought they should not be in this world.
5) His van is plastered with pictures/stickers showing great respect for Trump and Democrats/liberals in a gun sight.
6) His ex lawyer and family allegedly urged him to get help.
7) His arrests included grand theft, battery, fraud, drug charges, and probation violations.

In 3 through 6 I stated allegedly since I cannot verify them without a shadow of a doubt. Though I do think they are true. I think your gut feeling is paranoia. Also it is idiotic to think I buy what the left is selling. I take my position based on what facts I find. But if you want to go down the rabbit hole feel free. Perhaps you will meet others there who also believe in the deep state and the new world order. Personally I prefer to read Robert Ludlem. Inver Brass and such.

If you want to talk conspiracies lets go for MK Ultra, the Tuskgee Syphilis experiment, or the WMD'S that were found in Iraq and never reported. Carry on.
Speyside
7 years ago
BTW, your gut instinct seems messed up. Probiotics should help.
DrafterX
7 years ago
But he didn't hurt anybody right..?? 😟
RobertHively
7 years ago

BTW, your gut instinct seems messed up. Probiotics should help.

Speyside wrote:



Maybe it is, I try to keep regular by eating oats though.

You made some good points, and eventually I will look into everything you said in your previous post. Maybe you're instinct is right. He is a known criminal...

At least I wasnt on crickets, right?

I'm out, it's way too late for me.

I hope yall have fun battling it out...


DrafterX
7 years ago
A quarter pounder with cheese normally works for me if I gots stomach troubles... 😟
Speyside
7 years ago
Robert, you definitely weren't crickets. That was fun. It is always interesting to debate someone who thinks logically. I also enjoyed your exercise in Hegelian thought. I agree that our government and news media have their own biased agendas.
bgz
  • bgz
  • Herf-A-Holic
7 years ago

I have a better answer for you. Occam's razor. Your thought process seems illogical if you look at the available facts.

1) He has been arrested 9 times.
2) In 2002 he was arrested for threatening to bomb the Florida Power and Light company.
3) According to his cousin he allegedly he took a lot of steroids. He does have that bulked up look with the muscled up eyebrows area.
4) His ex boss said he allegedly hated none whites and Jews and thought they should not be in this world.
5) His van is plastered with pictures/stickers showing great respect for Trump and Democrats/liberals in a gun sight.
6) His ex lawyer and family allegedly urged him to get help.
7) His arrests included grand theft, battery, fraud, drug charges, and probation violations.

In 3 through 6 I stated allegedly since I cannot verify them without a shadow of a doubt. Though I do think they are true. I think your gut feeling is paranoia. Also it is idiotic to think I buy what the left is selling. I take my position based on what facts I find. But if you want to go down the rabbit hole feel free. Perhaps you will meet others there who also believe in the deep state and the new world order. Personally I prefer to read Robert Ludlem. Inver Brass and such.

If you want to talk conspiracies lets go for MK Ultra, the Tuskgee Syphilis experiment, or the WMD'S that were found in Iraq and never reported. Carry on.

Speyside wrote:



I read all over the internet he was a registered republican... If he was a felon and had all that on his record, how was he registered to vote?
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