Speyside
7 years ago
JJ, what does it mean to sponsor a kid?
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7 years ago

Why can't we all just... get along?!




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lol, watched it... might have to hunt down the movie again, been a while, classic!
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jjanecka
7 years ago
You gotta teach him the faith so that when he comes due for the confirmation the Bishop can bless him.

They want the kid to answer all this gay philosophical bull. Basically it's one of those "do exactly what we tell you and you'll pass" follow authority type things. Probably the worst part about faith formation is that these teachers don't want the kids to form their own opinions they just want to spoon feed them this faith based crap instead of teaching them real history. Catholics don't have it easy, there's really 2000 years of active history, councils, heresies et cetera.

Half the time the Roman Church was fighting off the Arian contraversy which enveloped all of Europe and almost stamped out the Roman Tradition within the first 500 years of the Church. Byzantium at the time had an emperor who was also very much anti-rome so there was a schism between east and west. Constantinople had an ugly history of installing patriarchs that fell in line with the byzantine emperor's agenda mainly because those positions were filled by imperial edict. That's the main reason that the Schism in 1054 happened. Rome finally had enough of the Byzantine Emperors. It had far less to do with actual doctrine and more to do with who had authority of the Roman Church, the emperor, or the Roman Pope. By that time the Holy Roman Empire took shape and the Pope finally had the muscle to leave the union with Constantinople.

It's chit like that the kids find interesting not generic bible quotes and some half-assed emasculated saints. I mean the first day we taught they gave the kids a big excersise on relativism but how the hell do they expect kids to defend themselves against differing opinions and doctrines if they don't even know what they're defending?
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7 years ago

You gotta teach him the faith so that when he comes due for the confirmation the Bishop can bless him.

They want the kid to answer all this gay philosophical bull. Basically it's one of those "do exactly what we tell you and you'll pass" follow authority type things. Probably the worst part about faith formation is that these teachers don't want the kids to form their own opinions they just want to spoon feed them this faith based crap instead of teaching them real history. Catholics don't have it easy, there's really 2000 years of active history, councils, heresies et cetera.

Half the time the Roman Church was fighting off the Arian contraversy which enveloped all of Europe and almost stamped out the Roman Tradition within the first 500 years of the Church. Byzantium at the time had an emperor who was also very much anti-rome so there was a schism between east and west. Constantinople had an ugly history of installing patriarchs that fell in line with the byzantine emperor's agenda mainly because those positions were filled by imperial edict. That's the main reason that the Schism in 1054 happened. Rome finally had enough of the Byzantine Emperors. It had far less to do with actual doctrine and more to do with who had authority of the Roman Church, the emperor, or the Roman Pope. By that time the Holy Roman Empire took shape and the Pope finally had the muscle to leave the union with Constantinople.

It's chit like that the kids find interesting not generic bible quotes and some half-assed emasculated saints. I mean the first day we taught they gave the kids a big excersise on relativism but how the hell do they expect kids to defend themselves against differing opinions and doctrines if they don't even know what they're defending?

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There's a reason why they don't want them learning the history. If they teach them to do as they say, then it stifles free thought, and that's a desired trait among their followers. The dogma is what's important because that's what keeps the plate full.

They don't want you to think freely.
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jjanecka
7 years ago
No, believe me, the Bishops want educated catholics, they want people of substance they can deliberate with. It's all the teachers on the bottom rungs and education directors that have been doing it for years that don't understand how to teach a group of kids that speak out of turn that just want them to shut up and follow.
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bgz
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7 years ago
I would be interested in documentation covering this topic.
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Bvolm680
7 years ago

There's a reason why they don't want them learning the history. If they teach them to do as they say, then it stifles free thought, and that's a desired trait among their followers. The dogma is what's important because that's what keeps the plate full.

They don't want you to think freely.

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Now I think you're being a little edgy and unfair. If we are talking about limiting thought we should be talking about the entire American school system. Ever heard of the "just enough education". Half of what we learn even in college is just minute bullsh*t that's not gonna ad any value to our set of skills in the real world. This way we can't overthrow large corporations and the government. (a little extremist / conspiracy here but still)
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Bvolm680
7 years ago
Interesting watch if you have time
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bgz
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7 years ago

Now I think you're being a little edgy and unfair. If we are talking about limiting thought we should be talking about the entire American school system. Ever heard of the "just enough education". Half of what we learn even in college is just minute bullsh*t that's not gonna ad any value to our set of skills in the real world. This way we can't overthrow large corporations and the government. (a little extremist / conspiracy here but still)

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If they made the curriculum harder for STEM degrees, nobody would graduate.

My graduating class had very few people in it... so many dropped out of the program.

When I interviewed a recent university grad, I picked his brain a bit and found out they dumbed down the curriculum quite a bit.

The motive is to get money and pump out grads, just like most industries, investors only care about making themselves money. Money is always the motive.
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Bvolm680
7 years ago
I think it goes deeper than that. I think that model could be correlated to someone like NASA who pumps out little stupid projects and then pull in billion dollar fed funding to push more meaningless research. I think thats why you've seen the space exploration go private.

In schools you dumb everything down so no-one is smart enough to understand corruption or overthrow corporations. Like I said this is extremis but I believe this all started with Standard Oil with Rockefeller took over the education curriculum to create a curriculum that allowed him to have workers that were just smart enough to work for him and help him grow but not smart enough to compete with him and create their own companies.

Kids that are graduating High School today are actually dumb sometimes. In my college classes I had kids who didn't know how to read/write. This isn;t acceptable. But you see STEM is on the other side. STEM researchers don't offer a threat to any kind of cooperation or government. STEM is too worried about figuring out problems and doing research on those problems. When that research gets big the ideas or information just gets bought out by corporations so they basically did all the work for them.

Again this is a radical way to think, but I think there is sufficient evidence out there in oder to support the claims. But not to many people my age want to ask questions or break the "PC" barrier.
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7 years ago
It doesn't take a conspiracy for all that. Most people are dumb af.

In order to compete against a powerful company, you have to be highly intelligent and have the drive, greed, connections and initial capital to do it.

Even then, it's a crap shoot whether you'll succeed at beating them or not.

You would need all the traits mentioned above, huge stones, and a true deep philosophical motive to overthrow a government. Not sure why anyone would want to even try to overthrow the US government. It's not perfect, but it does it's job sufficiently for the most part. Also, most people are well off by historic standards, including the poor. Most importantly, if you lose you're f**ked.

You don't need to try to create dumb workers, they manifest just fine on their own.
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Bvolm680
7 years ago
I think you mostly right. Creating a company and getting acquired is typically the route that most entrepreneurs are taking today. Which, of course isn't a bad thing except for the fact that large corporations run America.

I also was't trying to suggest an overthrowing of the government more of holding the government to a higher standard as the corruption in the US government seems to be increasing by the decade.

The biggest thing to remember is that the people hold all of the power. The Citizens of America and thats the biggest disadvantages to powerful people with agendas. At the end of the day you're right we live and we manifest, however, it is important to have the conversations in order to understand and stand up for the rights of Americans.
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Bvolm680
7 years ago
P.S. if there are any government lists out there i think I just found myself on one lmao. [sarcasm] but seriously :-"
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bgz
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7 years ago
You used the word overthrow... that word generally isn't used to describe knocking down corporations. I imagine it's pretty cutthroat at the top of a fortune 50 company... tends to be pretty cutthroat all the way down with everyone trying to claw their way up.

I wouldn't say corruption in government is more prevalent now than at any other point in history, but I do think it's more scrutinized and visible now than ever with the advent of the internet.

So politicians definitely have to be more careful now than say 100 years ago, which I would think it would imply less corruption than in the past.

In the end, we created money as a way to facilitate transactions and use it as a way to obtain status, power and respect. Therefore every rational person is going to make decisions based on the net monetary gain. There's no benefit to collapsing an adequately functioning government, as it will result in less valuable money for everyone... and no rational person wants that.

I stand by my opinion... the motive is always money.
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Bvolm680
7 years ago
Well, what about the Brexit? This was a huge government and citizen voting for the UK to pull out of the EU. Ever since that pull out both the pound and the Euro have taken great hits. I don't think monetary gain is everything. We have passions, opinions and values that trump any kind of monetary gain. The US dollar is weak the way it is right now. There are advantages and disadvantages of having a weak or strong dollar.

I would also say that yes the UK economist through the pound would bounce back, but they were still not 100% sure of the value of the pound would be greater before the event than after.

Bottom line I think there are more things that play into decisions than monetary positions. While yes, it is a big factor, it isn't the only factor, and shouldn't be the only factor. Like business don't only focus on increasing share prices for stockholders because people hold them to a sort of responsibility. Money runs the world, but it shouldn't run our minds.

I amend my statement of saying overthrow to holding to a higher standard. I also hope that you are right when it comes to the political corruption, however there are some things us citizens may never know.
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bgz
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7 years ago
Still money... UK wants out? Why? They think being a part of the EU is hurting their bottom line (and they're not wrong).

I totally 100% disagree with you... there might be other pieces of the puzzle in play, but when you add them up, it's always measured in dollars (or pounds and euros in this case)

Idealists don't make it to the top... silver tongued, greedy sociopaths do 😃
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