victor809
7 years ago

Is this a serious post?

Politicians in the highest ranks have badmouthed the President since before he took his oath.

the fact that you ignore this shows your true colors.


As for the President himself? Yes, I agree. He shouldn't say much of what he does.
But that doesn't mean he's to blame here.

60 million people voted for him.
One chose to send pipe bombs.

Why did the other 59,999,999 ignore him?

You're such a pawn for the liberal media it isn't even funny anymore.

tailgater wrote:



Ok tail. I'll bite.
Identify the bad things politicians have said about trump.

Anything equivalent to calling him "enemy of the people"? Any of them even close to President of the USA?
If you come back with the Mayor of Poughkeepsie saying he smells bad, I'm going to mock you.

And your pitiful attempt to pretend the number of people who voted for him has anything to do with this is just grasping for numbers. Doesn't matter how many people his demagoguery fails on. The point is that he's doing it, and it is working on some.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

PM me an address and I'll send 'em a dollar....


But, I submit that Trump makes bigger ripples than I do

dstieger wrote:


So you think his words ripple more than your actions?
victor809
7 years ago

I know why I think these things are wrong to do, but why do you? If you can kill someone who stands in the way of your idea of progress and not get in trouble and not be destroyed by inward guilt, isn't that a sign of a more highly evolved individual? Hitler got close to making the world just how he wanted... Had he not been stopped, would we not be a much more evolved people, free of Jews and non whites, living in peace and harmony, and capable of taking life without feeling remorse?

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Why would you think that being free of jews and non whites would make us a more evolved people?

In fact, I've said none of the things in the first half of your statement.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

Why would you think that being free of jews and non whites would make us a more evolved people?

In fact, I've said none of the things in the first half of your statement.

victor809 wrote:


Why would you think it wouldn't? Can you prove it? Just trying to figure out on what basis you could call a guy like Hitler "bad"...
victor809
7 years ago

Why would you think it wouldn't? Can you prove it? Just trying to figure out on what basis you could call a guy like Hitler "bad"...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



That's obvious.
Genetic diversity makes a population stronger. His entire basis for his dogma was incorrect. He incorrectly decided one race was superior to all the others (there's an irony there). Then he incorrectly assumes that eliminating other races will "purify" things, when in fact it's generally accepted that genetic diversity improves a species chances in overcoming adversity (one of the few concerns I have about GMO produced foods).

None of this even takes into account his choice to violate an entire population's rights, based on nothing more than race.
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

Why would you think that being free of jews and non whites would make us a more evolved people?

In fact, I've said none of the things in the first half of your statement.

victor809 wrote:


You've been a staunch supporter of population control.... My point was that Hitler found a way to control population without feeling the emotions that would stop a normal person from solving the problem via that solution... My point was that that is representative of a more evolved person... If your emotions or morality or whatever you want to call it stops you from doing what needs to be done to ensure the success of your species, then you are less evolved than someone who has no such restrictions on their desire... It's just a thought,not an accusation... I'm just doing some thinking...
opelmanta1900
7 years ago

That's obvious.
Genetic diversity makes a population stronger. His entire basis for his dogma was incorrect. He incorrectly decided one race was superior to all the others (there's an irony there). Then he incorrectly assumes that eliminating other races will "purify" things, when in fact it's generally accepted that genetic diversity improves a species chances in overcoming adversity (one of the few concerns I have about GMO produced foods).

None of this even takes into account his choice to violate an entire population's rights, based on nothing more than race.

victor809 wrote:


What rights? Again, if your morality or emotions or whatever make you change your behavior based on imaginary rights of others, that's a roadblock to evolution...
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Also, what is stronger, and is it more valuable than smarter?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Also, why do you get to decide one race isn't superior to the others? Isn't that an opinionated statement based on what you personally value most?
opelmanta1900
7 years ago
Also,also, if your explanation for why Hitler was a bad dude hinges only on the scientific belief that genetic diversity is greater than no diversity, if we find out that's wrong does that mean Hitler wasn't bad?

And sickle cell anemia actually turns out to be a horrible genetic condition that only affects one group of people... You realize if we could just wipe out those people the world would be free of sickle cell, but if we allow them to interbreed with the rest of the population, the condition could evolve to effect more and more groups of people...
victor809
7 years ago

You've been a staunch supporter of population control.... My point was that Hitler found a way to control population without feeling the emotions that would stop a normal person from solving the problem via that solution... My point was that that is representative of a more evolved person... If your emotions or morality or whatever you want to call it stops you from doing what needs to be done to ensure the success of your species, then you are less evolved than someone who has no such restrictions on their desire... It's just a thought,not an accusation... I'm just doing some thinking...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



Hitler I don't believe had any interest in population control. He just wanted to eliminate specific groups. There was no indication he wouldn't try to replace that lost populatino with aryans.
victor809
7 years ago

Also,also, if your explanation for why Hitler was a bad dude hinges only on the scientific belief that genetic diversity is greater than no diversity, if we find out that's wrong does that mean Hitler wasn't bad?

And sickle cell anemia actually turns out to be a horrible genetic condition that only affects one group of people... You realize if we could just wipe out those people the world would be free of sickle cell, but if we allow them to interbreed with the rest of the population, the condition could evolve to effect more and more groups of people...

opelmanta1900 wrote:



I think it's ironic that you chose sickle cell (I don't know anymore actually... I think the vast amount of irony in our political world may have broken the definition of irony....)

I thought everyone knew about sickle cell anemia... it's a classic example of traits which may otherwise weaken a population actually keeping it alive. Look up sickle cell and malaria.
dstieger
7 years ago

Hitler I don't believe had any interest in population control. He just wanted to eliminate specific groups. There was no indication he wouldn't try to replace that lost populatino with aryans.

victor809 wrote:



Isn't that precisely what Lebensborn was?
RMAN4443
7 years ago

That's obvious.
Genetic diversity makes a population stronger. His entire basis for his dogma was incorrect. He incorrectly decided one race was superior to all the others (there's an irony there). Then he incorrectly assumes that eliminating other races will "purify" things, when in fact it's generally accepted that genetic diversity improves a species chances in overcoming adversity (one of the few concerns I have about GMO produced foods).

None of this even takes into account his choice to violate an entire population's rights, based on nothing more than race.

victor809 wrote:


Homeless people are genetically diverse...don't they make our population stronger...why do you get to decide your superior to them(irony there?)? Why do you kick them when their down? Doesn't their genetic diversity improve our species chances to overcome adversity?[-(
victor809
7 years ago

Isn't that precisely what Lebensborn was?

dstieger wrote:



So, I was right. He had no interest in reducing total population. Just specific.
victor809
7 years ago

Homeless people are genetically diverse...don't they make our population stronger...why do you get to decide your superior to them(irony there?)? Why do you kick them when their down? Doesn't their genetic diversity improve our species chances to overcome adversity?[-(

RMAN4443 wrote:




Only if you're dumb enough to think homelessness is a genetic trait.
RMAN4443
7 years ago
I'm smart enough to know that some homeless people (many of them actually) are homeless due to mental and physical disabilities that are caused by genetics....even some people's proclivity to addiction is passed on through genetics, but a smart guy like you would know that
tailgater
7 years ago

Ok tail. I'll bite.
Identify the bad things politicians have said about trump.

Anything equivalent to calling him "enemy of the people"? Any of them even close to President of the USA?
If you come back with the Mayor of Poughkeepsie saying he smells bad, I'm going to mock you.

And your pitiful attempt to pretend the number of people who voted for him has anything to do with this is just grasping for numbers. Doesn't matter how many people his demagoguery fails on. The point is that he's doing it, and it is working on some.

victor809 wrote:



OK.
You're right.
The democrat politicians are praising him every chance they get...

As for numbers, it's odd that a guy who props up schooling as the end-all to intelligence should dismiss actual figures.
60MM people and ONE went berserk.
And you are telling us that he would not have gone berserk if Trump were not President.
And no one else would have gone berserk.
LOL!
Even the hard core birthers have nothing on you.

tailgater
7 years ago


Genetic diversity makes a population stronger.

victor809 wrote:



Doesn't Japan, a population almost completely devoid of genetic diversity, have a longer life expectancy than the US, a population a genetic mutts?

dstieger
7 years ago

Doesn't Japan, a population almost completely devoid of genetic diversity, have a longer life expectancy than the US, a population a genetic mutts?

tailgater wrote:




North Korea is probably just the exception to prove the rule
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