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7 years ago
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/420865-judge-orders-stormy-daniels-to-pay-trump-293k-in-legal-fees?amp 


Nothing says winning like the hooker paying you.

How’s victory taste Stormy? Like Cheeto stew?
deadeyedick
7 years ago
She may have to go back to work 🤔
frankj1
7 years ago
we talked about this here back in October, it's not the core case involving President Trump's affair with the porn actress (not easy to write in America).
This was a spin off defamation of character case.

The bigger one may swing drastically on future Cohen stuff.
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7 years ago
I know delta1 is crossing his fingers on that.......

You trust a lawyer? Now......do you trust a lawyer who records clients?

LMAO

#WITCHHUNT
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7 years ago
frankj1
7 years ago

MPGA

ZRX1200 wrote:


P=Putin?
frankj1
7 years ago

I know delta1 is crossing his fingers on that.......

You trust a lawyer? Now......do you trust a lawyer who records clients?

LMAO

#WITCHHUNT

ZRX1200 wrote:


well, the President of The United States used his best judgement and threw all his trust to a Russian mob connected "attorney" who dabbled in lucrative NYC taxi medallions...but who bought condos from Trump.

Jamie, the bigger question here is...do you trust a President who does that?
He entered a race to the bottom.

Winning.
rfenst
7 years ago

we talked about this here back in October, it's not the core case involving President Trump's affair with the porn actress (not easy to write in America).
This was a spin off defamation of character case.

The bigger one may swing drastically on future Cohen stuff.

frankj1 wrote:


It certainly is going to be entertaining!
Abrignac
7 years ago

well, the President of The United States used his best judgement and threw all his trust to a Russian mob connected "attorney" who dabbled in lucrative NYC taxi medallions...but who bought condos from Trump.

Jamie, the bigger question here is...do you trust a President who does that?
He entered a race to the bottom.

Winning.

frankj1 wrote:



The notion that we can elect an untarnished person to the office of President is farfetched. But, we did elect a person whose never lived in a fishbowl so he’s much less adept at concealing it. In addition, he reminds me of the tale of the naked emperor. Instead of clothing being his Achilles heel, his faults are that he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he loves himself much more than anyone else loves him.

At the end of the day he makes it very easy to hate the player instead of the game.
frankj1
7 years ago

The notion that we can elect an untarnished person to the office of President is farfetched. But, we did elect a person whose never lived in a fishbowl so he’s much less adept at concealing it. In addition, he reminds me of the tale of the naked emperor. Instead of clothing being his Achilles heel, his faults are that he thinks he’s smarter than everyone else and he loves himself much more than anyone else loves him.

At the end of the day he makes it very easy to hate the player instead of the game.

Abrignac wrote:


I dunno Anth, I think he's lived in a self marketed fishbowl for decades now, far longer than most POTUS's did prior to assuming the office.

In fact, very few people have ever been as absorbed in being front page news as this guy.

He also seems to be a record shattering person of tarnish.

And yet, my comments are not why I think he is not a good president. Ironically, they are why I found him an interesting public person...but not the stuff of the Office he holds.
Abrignac
7 years ago

I dunno Anth, I think he's lived in a self marketed fishbowl for decades now, far longer than most POTUS's did prior to assuming the office.

In fact, very few people have ever been as absorbed in being front page news as this guy.

He also seems to be a record shattering person of tarnish.

And yet, my comments are not why I think he is not a good president. Ironically, they are why I found him an interesting public person...but not the stuff of the Office he holds.

frankj1 wrote:




I see your point. Perhaps I should have said a fishbowl which he has no control of. As far as level of sliminess, I’m not sure he’s heads and shoulders above the competition.
frankj1
7 years ago

I see your point. Perhaps I should have said a fishbowl which he has no control of. As far as level of sliminess, I’m not sure he’s heads and shoulders above the competition.

Abrignac wrote:


he's been a media player/manipulator for so many years now...he ain't new to the scene, he's created the scene!

Plus, he's hired several of those slime balls for exactly the reasons that make them slime.

Hey, I know people who like what they say he has accomplished. I understand that. But the rest is still true, and might be getting worse.
delta1
7 years ago

I know delta1 is crossing his fingers on that.......

You trust a lawyer? Now......do you trust a lawyer who records clients?

LMAO

#WITCHHUNT

ZRX1200 wrote:



not crossing my fingers at all...

just matching up the man since he became POTUS to his past that was filled with deceitful business practices, for which he's been sued successfully dozens of times and which he filed for bankruptcy 4 times; his shady self-serving foundation that is now being sued; his broad, persistent and public support for an obvious political conspiracy hoax/hack job in an overtly racist attack on the POTUS; his boasting that he was smart for not paying his taxes; his refusal to produce his tax returns;

countless lies and contradictory statements since he started running for POTUS in 2015; documented events involving him, his family, his long-time friends and acquaintances with sketchy Russian oligarchs, which he vehemently denied initially, and once proven that he was lying, now claims there was nothing wrong, which doesn't explain why he and they lied consistently until shown they are lying; using campaign funds to pay off and shut up two mistresses from coming forward a few weeks before the election and right after the Access Hollywood tape became public, stories that may have eroded support from some Americans and ended his hopes for winning the office...

his lack of judgement to surround himself with such dubious people, including the lying lawyer, the lying campaign chief with ties to Russia and the Ukraine, which Russia is actively usurping and undermining; the lying right wing political hack who floated the birther attack; allowing lying Jared into the inner circle so that he could do business for his family's RE holdings with the power of the USA behind him; his continuing to do business with Russians after he jumped into the race, exposing himself to a hostile foreign adversarial government after he was warned that the foreign government was attempting to interfere in the elections; openly welcoming Russian help during the campaign; 16 of his lying associates and family members have been identified as having communicated/coordinated with Russians since he entered the race; dozens of Russians identified as those interfering in our election, several of whom had ties to Trump's people...

and on, and on...

not crossing my fingers, just connecting the dots...NLMAO

any con who says they would give Hillary a pass if all this was said and done by her and her peeps is delusional...I would want her jailed if she did this stuff...
tailgater
7 years ago



any con who says they would give Hillary a pass if all this was said and done by her and her peeps is delusional...I would want her jailed if she did this stuff...

delta1 wrote:



Not saying you're wrong.
But it's an unfair comparison.

Let's assume that EVERYTHING you said is 100% true.
Trump did these things in the private sector.
Hillary's illicit dealings were accomplished while being paid by tax dollars as a public servant.

The difference is not subtle.



delta1
7 years ago
the campaign finance felonies are the types of crimes that have gotten many public officials thrown out of office and indicted...

the cover-up lies and behavior started while he was campaigning and continues to this day...such abuse of power has a title: obstruction of justice...

past Presidents have suffered consequences for that stuff...


my question is whether or not the American people as a whole, have the ability to hold our values, principles and ideals higher than an individual for temporary political gain...
MACS
7 years ago
I'm old, and I forget sh*t... but I believe I have said this: My vote was against Hillary.

For all this guys antics, he's still better for this country (in my estimation) than her.

Don't like him much but, he's either doing or trying to do, what people voted him in to do.
MACS
7 years ago
Al... the same question could be asked if Hillary won, and if she had you wouldn't be asking it.
frankj1
7 years ago
baloney.

behavior is right or wrong. we approve or we disapprove.

and then we justify what we know is wrong to make our votes, um, justifiable.

but let's be honest with ourselves

edit: I forget which post I was referencing!!!
delta1
7 years ago

Al... the same question could be asked if Hillary won, and if she had you wouldn't be asking it.

MACS wrote:





if Hillary had won and was accused of doing this stuff, and the investigation proceeded with numerous indictments and guilty pleas indicating actual criminal behavior by those high up in her campaign, I would want her out of office...I am positive that she would have been impeached long ago by the GOP House and then found guilty by the GOP Senate, prolly when irrefutable proof surfaced that members of her campaign staff attended a meeting with agents of a hostile adversarial foreign government...good riddance, totally aboard with her ouster under those circumstances...

on the other hand, if she had won, and her Presidency didn't have a Russia-like scandal and the appointment of a Special Counsel looking into her campaign, she would've been mired in Congressional investigations into her private server and emails and Benghazi and the infamous meeting between Comey and Bill and Rice on the tarmac...there would be findings of improper behavior...high crimes and misdemeanors...impeachment and conviction...not sure I'd be on board here, unless more persuasive evidence was found of her criminal actions than exists now...
delta1
7 years ago
Tim Kaine woulda been a good POTUS...pretty sure Hillary woulda been impeached and convicted...
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