Speyside
7 years ago
The illegal aliens in our country are not immigrants. They are alien invaders. It is time they are treated as such.
Sunoverbeach
7 years ago
So dodge from rock to deteriorating rock while firing a laser gun at them?
frankj1
7 years ago

The illegal aliens in our country are not immigrants. They are alien invaders. It is time they are treated as such.

Speyside wrote:


and how do The Laws on the books say this should be done?

what would you add to punish those enticing them and more with employment opportunities?
opportunities that Americans are not taking...
Speyside
7 years ago
Look up the definitions, this is who they are.
tamapatom
7 years ago
I used to love that as a bar table top video game.
frankj1
7 years ago

Look up the definitions, this is who they are.

Speyside wrote:



8 U.S. Code § 1325. Improper entry by alien
frankj1
7 years ago
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a 

way too much to read, but it seems that an employer could face fines of $1,000 to $3,000
well worth the risk for the vast majority of businesses.
Gene363
7 years ago
Oklahoma figured this out and substantially solved their problems with illegals:


Section 3 of HB1804 makes it a felony in Oklahoma, punishable by no less than one year's imprisonment by the Oklahoma Department of Corrections or/and a $1,000 fine, to:

Transport, move, or attempt to transport any illegal alien
Conceal, harbor, or shelter from detection by law enforcement any illegal alien.


tamapatom
7 years ago
I know of someone in Oklahoma that used illegal aliens to build a wall.
Whistlebritches
7 years ago

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1324a

way too much to read, but it seems that an employer could face fines of $1,000 to $3,000
well worth the risk for the vast majority of businesses.

frankj1 wrote:



Employers should be hit hardest..........I agree without employment these illegal aliens would finally put so much strain on the system deportation willing or otherwise would be the only answer.

My proposal is one year imprisonment and $25,000 fine for each illegal alien under your employment.At #10 you get life and complete forfeiture of all business assets.


I like laws with teeth
delta1
7 years ago
those solutions may help with a small percentage of the illegal aliens who cross the southern border...but would be ineffective with the majority of illegals: those who entered the country with a legal visa, but have stayed beyond the expiration date...

here's an article about the total picture of illegal immigration in the US: the who, the where and the how...it's not all brown people coming across the southern border...far from it...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/undocumented-illegal-immigrants.html 
Whistlebritches
7 years ago

those solutions may help with a small percentage of the illegal aliens who cross the southern border...but would be ineffective with the majority of illegals: those who entered the country with a legal visa, but have stayed beyond the expiration date...

here's an article about the total picture of illegal immigration in the US: the who, the where and the how...it's not all brown people coming across the southern border...far from it...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/undocumented-illegal-immigrants.html 

delta1 wrote:




I know this...….I have sympathy for none of them.Get in line
delta1
7 years ago
I tend to agree...but what if the "get in line" laws are impossible to execute and enforce or purposely squeezed by lack of effort, funding, support...

illegal immigration was OK before this great nation existed, was a main contributing factor to this nation's birth, and was encouraged by our founders and leaders throughout the first half of our history and then mostly tolerated ever since...migration has been a phenomenon and driving force for humankind all over the world...

I'm not saying that we should have open borders, and we definitely should have control over who comes in...but our policies should reflect the human desire of peoples all over the world to live free and safe, and our proud history that this country is the greatest example of that...
frankj1
7 years ago
a very unpopular man said the other day that the USA used to be a sanctuary nation.
borndead1
7 years ago

I know this...….I have sympathy for none of them.Get in line

Whistlebritches wrote:



The line is really long and expensive. That's why people take a calculated risk and just try to stay in the country. The goons on capitol hill have no desire to make immigration or asylum any easier or more efficient because immigration is one of those hot button issues that politicians use to manipulate and fire up their bases during election years.
frankj1
7 years ago

The line is really long and expensive. That's why people take a calculated risk and just try to stay in the country. The goons on capitol hill have no desire to make immigration or asylum any easier or more efficient because immigration is one of those hot button issues that politicians use to manipulate and fire up their bases during election years.

borndead1 wrote:


or as a diversion in non election years
borndead1
7 years ago

or as a diversion in non election years

frankj1 wrote:



Word.
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